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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

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    Eh... maybe in your opinion. But Sanders deserves to be mentioned as #1, at least above Payton. He was about to blow past Payton's record before he bowed out. Sanders only played 10 seasons, Payton played for 12.

    Payton averaged 4.4 yards per attempt... Sanders averaged 5.0.

    In 12 years, Payton had 110 TDs. In 10 years, Sanders had 99.
    Payton blocked.
    Sanders did not.


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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

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    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "marshallvike" wrote:
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=53027.msg997423#msg997423 date=1253488170]
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=53027.msg997419#msg997419 date=1253487929]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=53027.msg997416#msg997416 date=1253486819]
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=53027.msg997414#msg997414 date=1253486516]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=53027.msg997412#msg997412 date=1253486330]
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=53027.msg997410#msg997410 date=1253486036]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=53027.msg997407#msg997407 date=1253485709]
    [quote author=ThorSPL link=topic=53027.msg997404#msg997404 date=1253484456]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=53027.msg997365#msg997365 date=1253481056]
    Campbell>> brown>> Payton>>> Sanders>> Smith>> AP>>> Jackson
    I have to disagree.... Smith is only there due to longevity; we gave him a line for many years... He was good in all facets of the game, but not amazing in any.

    The top three I could agree with, though I really only saw Payton and Sanders live...

    AND I think AD could leapfrog them in time.

    I think the all team leading rusher has to be in the top 5 haha
    Look at the number of years the rest of those guys played though. If you're basing his position on the list on his statistics, Bo Jackson and AP certainly shouldn't be in front of him.

    They aren't on my list
    What is the first quote then?
    [/quote]


    Left to right man

    Maybe I misunderstood what ur saying im drunk as floop


    [/quote]
    So your list goes:
    1) Earl Campbell
    2) Jim Brown
    3) Walter Payton
    4) Barry Sanders
    5) Emmitt Smith
    6) Adrian Peterson
    7) Bo Jackson

    ?
    [/quote]


    Yes sir
    [/quote]

    No Dickerson?
    [/quote]


    pooh thats what happens when u drink!

    i would make a list later ha im fricken drunk as pooh
    [/quote]

    Marcus Allen
    [/quote]

    Any list that doesn't have Jimmy Brown or Walter Payton first is wrong.
    Dead wrong.

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    [/quote]

    Eh... maybe in your opinion. But Sanders deserves to be mentioned as #1, at least above Payton. He was about to blow past Payton's record before he bowed out. Sanders only played 10 seasons, Payton played for 12.

    Payton averaged 4.4 yards per attempt... Sanders averaged 5.0.

    In 12 years, Payton had 110 TDs. In 10 years, Sanders had 99.

    [/quote]

    In Emmit's first 10 years, he had 136 rushing TD's.
    He finished his career with 164.


    Jim Brown had 106 rushing TD's in 9 years, with a 5.2 ypc.
    LT had 126 rushing TD's in 8 years.

    If you look at a RB's total career, it's hard not to give Emmit his dues.
    He was a very productive RB.

    If you look at who had the biggest impact in their prime, its a much tougher call, but it would be hard to go against Jim Brown.
    Guys like Campbell and Dickerson came out on fire there first 5-6 years, before wearing down.

    Walter Payton had a long productive career.
    He was maybe the most complete back of the group.
    Had the wow factor, but probably not quite as dominating as some of the others in their prime.

    Sanders was a whole different animal.
    Clearly one of the most enjoyable guys to watch, not so much with power or top end speed, but those crazy hips and short bursts were amazing.
    All time ankle breaker to play the game, combined with great production.

    For an all time RB, I think you need to consider both how they played in their prime along with how productive there careers ended up.

    1) Walter Payton -- most complete back of the greats
    2) Jim Brown -- most dominating in his prime
    3) Barry Sanders -- good production, game changing ability,
    4) Emmit Smith -- most productive RB to play the game

    After that, its hard to argue where Dickerson, Campbell, Simpson, Allen, Faulk and others should fall.

    If LT has a couple more productive years and he will be up there with the best of them.
    Its easy to see these guys as they start deteriorating and forget how great they once were.
    Its also easy to fall in love with the greats of yesteryear and forget about how they fell apart at the end of their careers.

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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

    "tastywaves" wrote:
    In Emmit's first 10 years, he had 136 rushing TD's.
    He finished his career with 164.


    Jim Brown had 106 rushing TD's in 9 years, with a 5.2 ypc.
    LT had 126 rushing TD's in 8 years.

    If you look at a RB's total career, it's hard not to give Emmit his dues.
    He was a very productive RB.

    If you look at who had the biggest impact in their prime, its a much tougher call, but it would be hard to go against Jim Brown.
    Guys like Campbell and Dickerson came out on fire there first 5-6 years, before wearing down.

    Walter Payton had a long productive career.
    He was maybe the most complete back of the group.
    Had the wow factor, but probably not quite as dominating as some of the others in their prime.

    Sanders was a whole different animal.
    Clearly one of the most enjoyable guys to watch, not so much with power or top end speed, but those crazy hips and short bursts were amazing.
    All time ankle breaker to play the game, combined with great production.

    For an all time RB, I think you need to consider both how they played in their prime along with how productive there careers ended up.

    1) Walter Payton -- most complete back of the greats
    2) Jim Brown -- most dominating in his prime
    3) Barry Sanders -- good production, game changing ability,
    4) Emmit Smith -- most productive RB to play the game

    After that, its hard to argue where Dickerson, Campbell, Simpson, Allen, Faulk and others should fall.

    If LT has a couple more productive years and he will be up there with the best of them.
    Its easy to see these guys as they start deteriorating and forget how great they once were.
    Its also easy to fall in love with the greats of yesteryear and forget about how they fell apart at the end of their careers.[/quote]

    From what I can gather, LT seems to have NO trouble remembering how good he used to be


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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

    I'm gonna try to bring this thread back to the future.

    We are watching the greatest runner to ever step onto the gridiron mature in front of our eyes, nobody knows what he's going to end up doing, but I know one thing for damn sure. It's fun to watch.

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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

    "ThorSPL" wrote:
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    In Emmit's first 10 years, he had 136 rushing TD's.
    He finished his career with 164.


    Jim Brown had 106 rushing TD's in 9 years, with a 5.2 ypc.
    LT had 126 rushing TD's in 8 years.

    If you look at a RB's total career, it's hard not to give Emmit his dues.
    He was a very productive RB.

    If you look at who had the biggest impact in their prime, its a much tougher call, but it would be hard to go against Jim Brown.
    Guys like Campbell and Dickerson came out on fire there first 5-6 years, before wearing down.

    Walter Payton had a long productive career.
    He was maybe the most complete back of the group.
    Had the wow factor, but probably not quite as dominating as some of the others in their prime.

    Sanders was a whole different animal.
    Clearly one of the most enjoyable guys to watch, not so much with power or top end speed, but those crazy hips and short bursts were amazing.
    All time ankle breaker to play the game, combined with great production.

    For an all time RB, I think you need to consider both how they played in their prime along with how productive there careers ended up.

    1) Walter Payton -- most complete back of the greats
    2) Jim Brown -- most dominating in his prime
    3) Barry Sanders -- good production, game changing ability,
    4) Emmit Smith -- most productive RB to play the game

    After that, its hard to argue where Dickerson, Campbell, Simpson, Allen, Faulk and others should fall.

    If LT has a couple more productive years and he will be up there with the best of them.
    Its easy to see these guys as they start deteriorating and forget how great they once were.
    Its also easy to fall in love with the greats of yesteryear and forget about how they fell apart at the end of their careers.
    From what I can gather, LT seems to have NO trouble remembering how good he used to be
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    True that, but it doesn't take away from what he's done.

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    Re: Childress sticks up for AD in AD vs.LT debate

    Injuries can really make a difference. had it not been for the career-ender we might be putting Terrell Davis in that list too. You just never know.

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