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    Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    [size=12pt]Tight end Visanthe Shiancoe has had an up-and-down 2007 after signing with the Vikings as a free agent.[/size]
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    The Vikings said they believed they had found the ideal tight end for their offense last March when they surprised many by signing free agent Visanthe Shiancoe to an $18.2 million, five-year contract that included $7 million in guarantees.

    With one game left in the regular season, the results have been mixed.

    Shiancoe, who had been used primarily as a blocking tight end playing behind Jeremy Shockey during his first four NFL seasons with the New York Giants, has 27 catches for 323 yards and one touchdown, tying wide receiver Robert Ferguson for third on the team in receptions.

    But Shiancoe also lost a fumble in the second quarter of the Vikings' 32-21 loss to Washington on Sunday -- it did not result in any points -- and has failed to hang on to three potential touchdown catches this season. Shiancoe's use in the passing game, or lack of it, also was a topic earlier in the year.

    Coach Brad Childress said he feels part of Shiancoe's ups-and-downs has been the adjustment process he has had to make...
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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    I feel like Shiancoe's ineptitude was part of the reason we went to Kleinsasser late in the 'Skins game in the red zone. Shiancoe has been anything but reliable this year.

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    That has to be the biggest scam in the history of the NFL (*cough cough hershal). I mean some of the best scam artists in the world don't get 7 mill that easily.

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    But Shiancoe also lost a fumble in the second quarter of the Vikings' 32-21 loss to Washington on Sunday -- it did not result in any points -- and has failed to hang on to three potential touchdown catches this season. Shiancoe's use in the passing game, or lack of it, also was a topic earlier in the year.
    That says it all.
    Those are the first things I thought of when I saw the title of this thread.
    Being caught from behind on a TD pass from Sydney Rice was nearly as bad as those.
    Those were all missed opportunities at critical times.
    I haven't seen enough positives out of him to overcome these negatives.
    But that's just me.




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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    I have to agree, nothing spectacular for sure.

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    Catching the football and not dropping it when you do should not be tough adjustments to make. I can see if he is having trouble with understanding routes and plays, but once the ball gets to him, he either has the talent to do something with it or he doesn't. I fail to see where another year is going to help him with that.

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    Catching the football and not dropping it when you do should not be tough adjustments to make. I can see if he is having trouble with understanding routes and plays, but once the ball gets to him, he either has the talent to do something with it or he doesn't. I fail to see where another year is going to help him with that.
    Well I do recall one veteran starter by the name of Robert Ferguson who came here & dropped several passes earlier in the season, but then turned it around & has been solid ever since.

    I also recall both Wade & Rice dropping several passes early in the season as well.

    How soon some of us forget.

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    Passes dropped......

    AFC Leaders Passes Dropped


    Rank Name Team Games Drops



    1 Dallas Clark IND 14 12



    2 Braylon Edwards CLE 15 11



    3 Randy Moss NE 15 9



    4 Brandon Marshall DEN 15 8



    T-5 Marty Booker MIA 14 7



    T-5 Anthony Gonzalez IND 13 7



    T-5 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN 15 7



    T-5 Chad Johnson CIN 15 7



    T-9 Ronald Curry OAK 15 6



    T-9 Kenton Keith IND 15 6



    T-9 Reggie Wayne IND 15 6



    T-9 Kellen Winslow CLE 15 6



    T-13 Dwayne Bowe KC 15 5



    T-13 Jerricho Cotchery NYJ 14 5



    T-13 Lee Evans BUF 15 5



    T-13 Antonio Gates SD 15 5



    T-13 Joe Jurevicius CLE 15 5



    T-13 Marcedes Lewis JAC 15 5



    T-13 Derrick Mason BAL 15 5



    T-13 Brad Smith NYJ 15 5



    T-13 Donte' Stallworth NE 15 5



    T-13 Hines Ward PIT 13 5

    NFC Leaders Passes Dropped


    Rank Name Team Games Drops



    T-1 Reggie Bush NO 12 10



    T-1 Devery Henderson NO 15 10



    T-1 Terrell Owens DAL 15 10



    T-4 Shaun McDonald DET 15 8



    T-4 Santana Moss WAS 13 8



    T-4 Brian Westbrook PHI 14 8



    T-7 Earnest Graham TB 15 7



    T-7 Darrell Jackson SF 14 7



    T-7 Brandon Jacobs NYG 10 7



    T-7 Steve Smith CAR 14 7



    T-11 Plaxico Burress NYG 15 6



    T-11 Desmond Clark CHI 15 6



    T-11 Keary Colbert CAR 12 6



    T-11 Kevin Curtis PHI 15 6



    T-11 Warrick Dunn ATL 15 6



    T-11 Frank Gore SF 14 6



    T-11 Edgerrin James ARI 15 6



    T-11 Michael Jenkins ATL 15 6



    T-11 Amani Toomer NYG 15 6



    T-11 Roy Williams DET 12 6



    T-11 Jason Witten DAL 15 6

    http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/league/passesdropped.html

    AFC Leaders Passes Not Caught


    Rank Name Team Games Not Rec


    1 Braylon Edwards CLE 15 69


    T-2 Chad Johnson CIN 15 65


    T-2 Brandon Marshall DEN 15 65


    4 Kellen Winslow CLE 15 61


    5 Chris Chambers SD 15 60


    T-6 Lee Evans BUF 15 56


    T-6 Derrick Mason BAL 15 56


    T-8 T.J. Houshmandzadeh CIN 15 55


    T-8 Randy Moss NE 15 55


    T-8 Jerry Porter OAK 15 55


    T-11 Marty Booker MIA 14 50


    T-11 Reggie Wayne IND 15 50


    13 Tony Gonzalez KC 15 47


    14 Dwayne Bowe KC 15 45


    15 Jerricho Cotchery NYJ 14 43


    16 Dallas Clark IND 14 42


    T-17 Ronald Curry OAK 15 41


    T-17 Hines Ward PIT 13 41


    T-19 Mark Clayton BAL 15 40


    T-19 Kevin Walter HOU 15 40


    NFC Leaders Passes Not Caught


    Rank Name Team Games Not Rec


    1 Plaxico Burress NYG 15 67


    2 Terrell Owens DAL 15 60


    T-3 Larry Fitzgerald ARI 14 59


    T-3 Steve Smith CAR 14 59


    5 Darrell Jackson SF 14 55


    T-6 Bernard Berrian CHI 15 53


    T-6 Kevin Curtis PHI 15 53


    T-6 Torry Holt STL 15 53


    9 Arnaz Battle SF 15 52


    10 Santana Moss WAS 13 51


    11 Roddy White ATL 15 50


    12 Reggie Brown PHI 15 48


    T-13 Isaac Bruce STL 13 44


    T-13 Chris Cooley WAS 15 44


    T-15 Nate Burleson SEA 15 42


    T-15 Shaun McDonald DET 15 42


    T-15 Amani Toomer NYG 15 42


    T-15 Jason Witten DAL 15 42


    T-19 Joey Galloway TB 15 41


    T-19 Muhsin Muhammad CHI 15 41


    T-19 Roy Williams DET 12 41

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    "singersp" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    Catching the football and not dropping it when you do should not be tough adjustments to make. I can see if he is having trouble with understanding routes and plays, but once the ball gets to him, he either has the talent to do something with it or he doesn't. I fail to see where another year is going to help him with that.
    Well I do recall one veteran starter by the name of Robert Ferguson who came here & dropped several passes earlier in the season, but then turned it around & has been solid ever since.

    I also recall both Wade & Rice dropping several passes early in the season as well.

    How soon some of us forget.
    Forget what? They improved but he is still doing it so what is your point? If he had dropped them early and started catching them now you would be correct but he is still dropping passes and fumbling now. No forgetting there.

    And the balls be is dropping are easy catches right in his hands. Are those drops you posted also easy drops or something they had to stretch out for and just couldn't grab. I expected more from you than that,

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    Re: Childress expects Shiancoe to be better next season

    I would certainly hope he gets better. He's done nothing to impress me this year.


    What has he done that stands out to me? Dropped passes.



    If we get a dangerous receiver, and teams still put 8 in the box, I could see Shiancoe being really successful with a single safety deep.


    This team is headed in the right direction. All we need is one receiver, just one. Fitzgerald? First round draft pick? Randy Moss?
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    I really can't wait to see what this offense can do with
    7 in the box so Peterson can run all-day, and set up those play-action bombs.... I expect to put up a lot of points when all of the pieces of the puzzle are in place.

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