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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    Redskins fans can crow all they want. The Vikings are putting the building blocks for a better team in the long run.



    Go Vikings!

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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    "vikesfargo" wrote:
    Redskins fans can crow all they want. The Vikings are putting the building blocks for a better team in the long run.

    I couldn't agree more.
    I stuck a link to thier CAP woes in a thread yesterday.
    No draft picks, no money, aging players.
    Very tough row to hoe if you want to stay competitive in this league.
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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "vikesfargo" wrote:
    Redskins fans can crow all they want. The Vikings are putting the building blocks for a better team in the long run.

    I couldn't agree more.
    I stuck a link to thier CAP woes in a thread yesterday.
    No draft picks, no money, aging players.
    Very tough row to hoe if you want to stay competitive in this league.
    They still have to win and we have to lose for them to make the playoffs.
    Hope they don't catch their chickens.

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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    That whole situation was crazy..

    1. here's a question.. could Bchill challange the rulling by saying they sub'd someone?


    2. now when they review the 12 man call.. do they look to see if they sub'd some1 to verify it's a penelty? or just back far enouf to say.. ohh there are 12 guys there.


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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    There are 4 types of plays where they can review a penalty, and all of them involve hard visual evidence that there was a penalty. The other penalties aren't reviewable because they are judgement calls by the ref.

    1. 12 men on the field (offense or defense) - you can obviously tell if one team has an extra player out there.

    2. Illeagal pass - QB beyond the line of scrimmage

    3. Illeagal touching - No, this has nothing to do with Singer (as far as the NFL rule book is concerned). It's when a player goes out of bounds, and then is the first player to touch a pass/kick.

    4. Illeagal touch of the kick - if the ball doesn't go 10 yards before the kicking team touches it on an onside kick.


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    Re: Childress: The 12 men on the field fiasco

    "josdin00" wrote:
    There are 4 types of plays where they can review a penalty, and all of them involve hard visual evidence that there was a penalty. The other penalties aren't reviewable because they are judgement calls by the ref.

    1. 12 men on the field (offense or defense) - you can obviously tell if one team has an extra player out there.

    2. Illeagal pass - QB beyond the line of scrimmage

    3. Illeagal touching - No, this has nothing to do with Singer (as far as the NFL rule book is concerned). It's when a player goes out of bounds, and then is the first player to touch a pass/kick.

    4. Illeagal touch of the kick - if the ball doesn't go 10 yards before the kicking team touches it on an onside kick.

    Yes you are correct.
    I watched Mike Periera on the NFL Network too.
    What cracks me up about this is any penalty can be clear on tape whether or not it's a penalty.
    They are all judgement calls.
    Everyone of them.
    Sometimes you may not be able to see things in real time and that is understandable.
    However, all this does is open up chances for controversy.
    For instance it may be difficult for a ref to see if a WR did in fact go out of bounds before touching the ball.
    It may be difficult to see whether or not a ball hit someone on the l=kicking team prior to going 10 yards.
    I guess if it's that difficult it comes down to being inconclusive.
    However, you are still looking at a JUDGEMENT call.

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