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    Re: Championship Run?

    Allen really solidifies the defense. Right now our weakest points on defense are probably Ray Edwards/ Brian Robison at whatever end Allen isn't playing, McCauley at nickelback, and Greenway at LB. We don't really know how Madieu Williams is going to play but we can only hope that he's an improvement on Dwight Smith. I'm hoping Griffin really peaks in his third year as he had some struggles last year. The good news is that the core of our defense is really strong.. EJ is ready to be a pro-bowler, Pat and Kevin are the best DT combo in the league, Allen is a pro Bowler and a pass rush specialist, Leber is solid, Sharper is solid at times, Winfield is solid and great in run support. The players are there, we just don't know if they'll show up come time for the season.

    The offense is going to dictate whether we're an OK team or a great team this year. We already know Tarvaris can be either very good or very bad. Obviously Childress sees something in him still and thinks he can compete on this level.. That can be either good or bad news. Berrian, Wade, and Rice are an above average receiving corps. Berrian is another solid player, Rice has shown flashes of greatness, and Wade is perfect in the slot.

    McKinnie potentially being suspended could be huge for us. We're definitely going to have to draft an o-lineman at some point in case that happens. In any case, Birk and Hutchinson are two of the best in the business.

    Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor.. what more can you say. Best 1-2 punch at RB in the league.

    So yes, I think we're poised for that run but we have to get consistent quarterback play and improve that pass defense, the same concerns we had leading into the season last year.

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    Re: Championship Run?

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Allen really solidifies the defense. Right now our weakest points on defense are probably Ray Edwards/ Brian Robison at whatever end Allen isn't playing, McCauley at nickelback, and Greenway at LB. We don't really know how Madieu Williams is going to play but we can only hope that he's an improvement on Dwight Smith. I'm hoping Griffin really peaks in his third year as he had some struggles last year. The good news is that the core of our defense is really strong.. EJ is ready to be a pro-bowler, Pat and Kevin are the best DT combo in the league, Allen is a pro Bowler and a pass rush specialist, Leber is solid, Sharper is solid at times, Winfield is solid and great in run support. The players are there, we just don't know if they'll show up come time for the season.

    The offense is going to dictate whether we're an OK team or a great team this year. We already know Tarvaris can be either very good or very bad. Obviously Childress sees something in him still and thinks he can compete on this level.. That can be either good or bad news. Berrian, Wade, and Rice are an above average receiving corps. Berrian is another solid player, Rice has shown flashes of greatness, and Wade is perfect in the slot.

    McKinnie potentially being suspended could be huge for us. We're definitely going to have to draft an o-lineman at some point in case that happens. In any case, Birk and Hutchinson are two of the best in the business.

    Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor.. what more can you say. Best 1-2 punch at RB in the league.

    So yes, I think we're poised for that run but we have to get consistent quarterback play and improve that pass defense, the same concerns we had leading into the season last year.
    I agree with most of what you say except for Greenway being the weak point on our defense.
    This is just my opinion, but I think this might be his year.
    He was looking very promising last season, being essentially a rookie still.
    He did make some mistakes, but I think he will turn out to be one of our better playmakers out there on Defense.
    If he is even 10% better this season, that would be fantastic.
    I guess technically he is our weak link in the LInebacking corps, but i'm sure at the end of the season, we'll all be glad we picked him instead of trading up for a QB.

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    Re: Championship Run?

    "misplacedminnesotan" wrote:
    In the press conference I heard Allen talking of a championship run now.
    I have to admit that at first I was a little giddy, but now I am not sure.
    Was Allen all we needed for this team to start its run?
    I don't like your choices.
    Especially the first - the Vikings are not a favorite to win the NFC because the NFC is "weak" (didn't the NFC just produce the Super Bowl Champion?).
    They are a favorite to win the NFC because the Vikings are strong.

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    I think some better options would be:

    Yes, they are all mighty and powerful
    yes, the myth of "weak" nfc will allow them to be contenders
    Yes, but a lot needs to go right
    No, we all let the signing of Allen and Berrian convince us the vikes are the best team in the league
    No, We still need some key additions
    No, not a chance

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    "Zeus" wrote:
    "misplacedminnesotan" wrote:
    In the press conference I heard Allen talking of a championship run now.
    I have to admit that at first I was a little giddy, but now I am not sure.
    Was Allen all we needed for this team to start its run?
    I don't like your choices.
    Especially the first - the Vikings are not a favorite to win the NFC because the NFC is "weak" (didn't the NFC just produce the Super Bowl Champion?).
    They are a favorite to win the NFC because the Vikings are strong.

    =Z=
    I didn't vote because it was a Schleprock-biased poll.
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    Not this year, the schedule is to hard on us, i heard the 4th hardest or something on NFLN ??
    Anyway it's unheard of the easy schedule the Patriots have... something should be done about that....

    We'll see the playoffs i think but not with such of a big record 10-6
    Rosie O'Donnell is a dude!

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    "Mr-holland" wrote:
    Not this year, the schedule is to hard on us, i heard the 4th hardest or something on NFLN ??
    Anyway it's unheard of the easy schedule the Patriots have... something should be done about that....

    We'll see the playoffs i think but not with such of a big record 10-6
    I hardly take strenght of schedule into account at all at the beginning of the season.
    no one knows who will do well and who won't.
    Who would have though the Browns would have been one game out of making the playoffs?
    who would have thought the giants would win the superbowl?
    who would have thought the Saints and Bears would have been the NFC Championship contenders two years ago? (well, except for me who put $10 on the 200:1 Saints)

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    Re: Championship Run?

    Title talk starts at Winter Park

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/18092834.html

    Jared Allen barely had two feet inside Winter Park last week when he first heard that word.

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    Re: Championship Run?

    I like this little tidbit by Spielman

    They were convinced, Spielman said, that the draft's top pass rushers would be off the board at their first-round position, the No. 17 overall pick.

    Trading up into the top 10 would have cost the Vikings' first-round pick and both of their thirds, Spielman theorized. Even moving up five slots would have required the first-round pick and one of the picks in the third round.

    "In essence," Spielman said, "it's like trading up to get Jared Allen in the top 10 of the draft."
    When you put it taht way, it seems very very reasonable what we paid for Allen

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    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Allen really solidifies the defense. Right now our weakest points on defense are probably Ray Edwards/ Brian Robison at whatever end Allen isn't playing, McCauley at nickelback, and Greenway at LB. We don't really know how Madieu Williams is going to play but we can only hope that he's an improvement on Dwight Smith. I'm hoping Griffin really peaks in his third year as he had some struggles last year. The good news is that the core of our defense is really strong.. EJ is ready to be a pro-bowler, Pat and Kevin are the best DT combo in the league, Allen is a pro Bowler and a pass rush specialist, Leber is solid, Sharper is solid at times, Winfield is solid and great in run support. The players are there, we just don't know if they'll show up come time for the season.

    The offense is going to dictate whether we're an OK team or a great team this year. We already know Tarvaris can be either very good or very bad. Obviously Childress sees something in him still and thinks he can compete on this level.. That can be either good or bad news. Berrian, Wade, and Rice are an above average receiving corps. Berrian is another solid player, Rice has shown flashes of greatness, and Wade is perfect in the slot.

    McKinnie potentially being suspended could be huge for us. We're definitely going to have to draft an o-lineman at some point in case that happens. In any case, Birk and Hutchinson are two of the best in the business.

    Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor.. what more can you say. Best 1-2 punch at RB in the league.

    So yes, I think we're poised for that run but we have to get consistent quarterback play and improve that pass defense, the same concerns we had leading into the season last year.
    I agree with most of what you say except for Greenway being the weak point on our defense.
    This is just my opinion, but I think this might be his year.
    He was looking very promising last season, being essentially a rookie still.
    He did make some mistakes, but I think he will turn out to be one of our better playmakers out there on Defense.
    If he is even 10% better this season, that would be fantastic.
    I guess technically he is our weak link in the LInebacking corps, but i'm sure at the end of the season, we'll all be glad we picked him instead of trading up for a QB.
    what receiving corps are we better than? i am still convinced that our WR's a just average. not even close to above average. Now AD and CT will help open up the passing game (i.e. Denver game, or any number of Play Action passes on the first play of the game, which is my favorite thing to do). BBerr is slightly above average. The rest of the WR's are unproven or slot receivers.

    I will say that our defense is going to be killer this year.

    Also.. To say that we 'can't come out of nowhere' to be a force in the NFC.. See: New Orleans Saints.
    i m better than you, so just give up...

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