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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

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    We would never run a true spread offense anyways. You can't really call yourself a spread offense if you don't take 75% of your snaps out of the shotgun. We could never pass up on just handing it off to AD up the gut and seeing what he makes of it.

    Not to mention the key to the whole offense is a good QB.
    There's no such thing as a good QB without adequate pass protection.

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

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    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

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    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "V4L" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
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    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.

    Yes I did thanks

    And I think Tarvaris can hit the quick slants and outs and curls.. With an occasional horrible miss

    It's worth a shot cuz what we are doing clearly isnt working

    I think the defenses are onto our gameplan

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "Mr" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.
    "Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense."
    And there in lies my reasoning. To get 8 or 9 out of the box.
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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
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    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47930.msg838174#msg838174 date=1221669422]
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.
    "Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense."
    And there in lies my reasoning. To get 8 or 9 out of the box.
    [/quote]

    But you don't need to run the spread to get 8 or 9 out of the box. Keep in mind that the field can be stretched in two directions. Which is why we brought in Berrian.... to stretch it vertically.

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "Mr" wrote:
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    "Mr" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=47930.msg838190#msg838190 date=1221669927]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47930.msg838174#msg838174 date=1221669422]
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.
    "Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense."
    And there in lies my reasoning. To get 8 or 9 out of the box.
    [/quote]

    But you don't need to run the spread to get 8 or 9 out of the box. Keep in mind that the field can be stretched in two directions. Which is why we brought in Berrian.... to stretch it vertically.
    [/quote]

    But Aerrian isn't doing it because with his sore toe he doesn't have the speed or the moves.
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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "Mr" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=47930.msg838190#msg838190 date=1221669927]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47930.msg838174#msg838174 date=1221669422]
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.
    "Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense."
    And there in lies my reasoning. To get 8 or 9 out of the box.
    [/quote]

    But you don't need to run the spread to get 8 or 9 out of the box. Keep in mind that the field can be stretched in two directions. Which is why we brought in Berrian.... to stretch it vertically.
    [/quote]



    We tried it a few times and they still kept 8 in the box

    Maybe with Gus he can air it out

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    Re: Can the Vikings run a "Spread" offense?

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    "Mr" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47930.msg838200#msg838200 date=1221670249]
    [quote author=Mr Anderson link=topic=47930.msg838190#msg838190 date=1221669927]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47930.msg838174#msg838174 date=1221669422]
    I don't think our tackles suck.. Ryan Cook has done just fine this year

    And Hicks so far has held his own against 2 of the best in the business.. Of course giving up a play or 2

    When we ran 3 wide it gave us just enough protection to hit on the quick stuff

    Throw another in there sometimes and let them know we aren't scared.. You don't need much time to set up slants and things like that..

    I think Allison could even get deep enough for a deep post before Tarvaris even gets close to getting hit

    Make this happen coaches
    Cook definitely looked better this last week than he did against the Pack, you're right about him improving. But I seriously believe Artis Hicks is one of the worst players in the NFL. He's truly awful. And spreading out their splits, will make him(and Cook) even worse.


    Ehhh I wouldn't go that far my friend.. Although there are plenty of people I would like in instead of Hicks

    I think spreading out the D would work a little better with one TE in the block and when McKinnie comes back

    Send the 3 WR's on quick slants in the middle and BB deep

    And AP out into the flats
    So who is going to throw them the ball? BTW I think you meant O.
    Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense.

    So I guess you could say either one in that case.
    "Well the objective of spreading the offense is to spread the defense."
    And there in lies my reasoning. To get 8 or 9 out of the box.
    [/quote]

    But you don't need to run the spread to get 8 or 9 out of the box. Keep in mind that the field can be stretched in two directions. Which is why we brought in Berrian.... to stretch it vertically.
    [/quote]

    But Aerrian isn't doing it because with his sore toe he doesn't have the speed or the moves.
    [/quote]
    But Peterson has rushed for 263 yards in 2 games. I don't think he had 263 combined in the last 5 games of the season last year. I think Berrian's presence alone is enough to keep a safety out of the box.

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