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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    The Vikings won the NFC North last year without players like Percy Harvin (not yet drafted) Sidney Rice (injury) E.J. Henderson (injury) and Phil Loadholt (not yet drafted) Plus, we played with Gus Frerotte under center for most part of the season.

    I think we can reach the Super Bowl without Brett Favre, but the rest of the team must perform at their peak.

    The thing about Favre is that he can either win you the game, or lose it. We need to get the running game back on track so that Brett Favre can play under less pressure.
    The Vikings also featured a great run game last year to take some of the pressure off TJ. If we can't run and have to rely on TJ through the air, 95% sure we lose our first game.

    However, if we can get our run game going again, and our Line can start blocking, then I think he stands a chance. Probably won't win the superbowl, but could go deep.
    You guys touch on last year and the results with what we had. If we had Favre starting last year, would we have beat the eagles?
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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

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    I was wondering how confident you guys are in your back-ups at this point?

    Lets say that Favre does go down again, and this time, he will sit out while is arm is reduced to jello, does anyone here think that either Jackson or Rosenfels is good enough to lead your team to a SB win?

    I asume that just being a game manager on this team won't be enough at this point. Yes, your defense is still great and yes, you have a good running game, but there appears to be a slight collapse in those departments when compared to the last two years. Can Sage or Tarvaris carry your team?

    I apologize if this thread has already been made, or one has spinned off into this discussion.
    Brett Favre hasn't missed a game in 18 years.

    But, that question could be leveled at many teams vying for the playoffs.

    Such as Peyton Manning getting injured, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer. I would view that as catastrophic.

    Romo and Rodgers, not so much.
    Yeah, difference is, those teams don't have a QB who have digressed horribly towards the end of the year for the last 5 years.

    Of course it'd be horrible for all those teams to lose their QBs. Especially the Colts.

    Point is, you did have the talent to get this team into the play-offs without a good QB last year, TJ looked quite sharp in the little playing time he had. There's an improvement. Then you have Percy who added a lot to this offense. I was just wondering how high hopes would be after Favre would go down. Which is a very realistic possibility.

    Again, read what I wrote, if his arm gives out. He won't stop playing, he's tough. Point is, do you want him playing or do you 'force' him to sit down? Because if he goes to 2008 Jets form, I'm sure that both your back-ups could do a better job.

    And I'm not going to argue this Rodgers stuff again. If you really want to believe that this team would be just as good without him, go ahead. I don't know what you'd base that on, but feel free to. You're the ones having to deal with him for years to come.
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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    In this year's climate ... we cannot win the Super Bowl with Jackson or Rosenfels. At best I would say a 8% chance.

    With there being so many strong teams (Indianapolis, New Orleans, Arizona, San Diego, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Denver, Dallas and Philadelphia ALL 8-4 or better) it would seem that it would be too much quality to navigate.

    Would not say it would be *impossible* ... but highly improbable.

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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    gregair13 wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    HEY wrote:
    The Vikings won the NFC North last year without players like Percy Harvin (not yet drafted) Sidney Rice (injury) E.J. Henderson (injury) and Phil Loadholt (not yet drafted) Plus, we played with Gus Frerotte under center for most part of the season.

    I think we can reach the Super Bowl without Brett Favre, but the rest of the team must perform at their peak.

    The thing about Favre is that he can either win you the game, or lose it. We need to get the running game back on track so that Brett Favre can play under less pressure.
    The Vikings also featured a great run game last year to take some of the pressure off TJ. If we can't run and have to rely on TJ through the air, 95% sure we lose our first game.

    However, if we can get our run game going again, and our Line can start blocking, then I think he stands a chance. Probably won't win the superbowl, but could go deep.
    You guys touch on last year and the results with what we had. If we had Favre starting last year, would we have beat the eagles?
    Yes, the Eagles, the Cardinals and the Steelers for that matter.

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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    Let's just hope we don't have to find out.
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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    midgensa wrote:
    In this year's climate ... we cannot win the Super Bowl with Jackson or Rosenfels. At best I would say a 8% chance.

    With there being so many strong teams (Indianapolis, New Orleans, Arizona, San Diego, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Denver, Dallas and Philadelphia ALL 8-4 or better) it would seem that it would be too much quality to navigate.

    Would not say it would be *impossible* ... but highly improbable.
    The road to the SB goes through domes this year in the NFC. Climate should not be an issue.
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    The only way you are going to make this game more appealing to the public than it was before is if there are on field orgies at halftime and the domes become massive opium dens."

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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    I don't know.. Anything can happen, I suppose.

    I'm not worried about the Super Bowl or even the playoffs. I'm more concerned with the team beating the Bengals.
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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

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    I don't know.. Anything can happen, I suppose.

    I'm not worried about the Super Bowl or even the playoffs. I'm more concerned with the team beating the Bengals.
    The PLAYERS are the ones who are supposed to take it one game at a time.

    Don't you know as fans our job is to speculate for the next 10 years based on the injury statuses this week! :cheer:

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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    gregair13 wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    The Vikings won the NFC North last year without players like Percy Harvin (not yet drafted) Sidney Rice (injury) E.J. Henderson (injury) and Phil Loadholt (not yet drafted) Plus, we played with Gus Frerotte under center for most part of the season.

    I think we can reach the Super Bowl without Brett Favre, but the rest of the team must perform at their peak.

    The thing about Favre is that he can either win you the game, or lose it. We need to get the running game back on track so that Brett Favre can play under less pressure.
    The Vikings also featured a great run game last year to take some of the pressure off TJ. If we can't run and have to rely on TJ through the air, 95% sure we lose our first game.

    However, if we can get our run game going again, and our Line can start blocking, then I think he stands a chance. Probably won't win the superbowl, but could go deep.
    You guys touch on last year and the results with what we had. If we had Favre starting last year, would we have beat the eagles?
    Yes, I think we would have had at least a much better chance. Obviously no game is a gimmie, but Favre would give us a better chance to win than TJ did. We didn't really lose by that much, and it was still a game through the fourth quarter. Differenc eis Favre can close, while TJ can't really yet.

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    Re:Can Jackson or Rosenfels be your Hostetler?

    midgensa wrote:
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    I don't know.. Anything can happen, I suppose.

    I'm not worried about the Super Bowl or even the playoffs. I'm more concerned with the team beating the Bengals.
    The PLAYERS are the ones who are supposed to take it one game at a time.

    Don't you know as fans our job is to speculate for the next 10 years based on the injury statuses this week! :cheer:
    True.

    But I find taking one game at a time less earth-shattering when the Vikings don't make it to the point I expected them to (typically a deep playoff run at least).

    My mindset is more geared towards self preservation than anything else. =D
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