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    Re: Bye Bye Sidney Rice and Ray Edwards

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    Again, my post was made at about noon, those articles came out after.

    This thread was based on some 'breaking' news heard on the radio or TV, the articles weren't written up yet at that point.
    Check out sportspyder. I was tracking the info all morning on it while I was at work.
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    Re: Bye Bye Sidney Rice and Ray Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1099083
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    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1099059
    Again, my post was made at about noon, those articles came out after.

    This thread was based on some 'breaking' news heard on the radio or TV, the articles weren't written up yet at that point.
    Check out sportspyder. I was tracking the info all morning on it while I was at work.
    You know, as a Govt employee I would hope you would be doing a bit more than following sports web sites while on the taxpayers dime. You can do whatever you want after you clock out.
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    Re: Bye Bye Sidney Rice and Ray Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1099033
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1099017
    Here is my glass half full take. ( And hopefully nobody will bitch at me for being positive) .

    While we might lose Rice and Edwards, there are going to be UFA's from the rest of the teams in the league that will now be available to us with no restrictions that we can use to rebuild our roster and I feel that we might actually come out ahead in that scenario. While we might lose a talented WR who is made of glass and a malcontent DE, we can go out and get some guys who actually want to play and improve the locker room chemistry.


    Food for thought.
    Niether Rice or Edwards are top ten at their position in the league. Some team will probably fork over a bag of money to Rice for his 'potential', but I doubt Ray will get what he wants.

    Either way I tend to agree with you. In fact, when I look at the list of Vikings free agents, I think maybe we are in better shape than a lot of teams.

    Nose tackle Pat Williams (14 years of service); kicker Ryan Longwell (14); linebacker Ben Leber (nine); quarterback Patrick Ramsey (nine) cornerback Lito Sheppard (nine); wide receiver Greg Lewis (eight); cornerback Frank Walker (eight); wide receiver Hank Baskett (five); defensive end Ray Edwards (five); defensive tackle Fred Evans (five); offensive lineman Ryan Cook (five); quarterback Tarvaris Jackson (five); fullback Naufahu Tahi (five); safety Eric Frampton (four); and wide receiver Sidney Rice (four).
    I agree with everything except that I think Ray WILL get what he wants. Free agency has never been about value, it's always been about excess. I want MORE money than team A gave me to play for team B.

    When you think about it, the NFL is horrible when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

    We bitch about rookie contracts that pay unproven guys a bazillion dollars only to watch them fail miserably. Yet we seldom throw up the same stink despite watching teams over pay "proven" guys.

    Think we got good value for Berrian? How about Lito Shepperd?

    And the list goes on.

    Fact is, the NFL throws too much money at guys who simply aren't that good.

    That said, someone will pay Ray way too much money..and he'll feel vindicated.

    Then he'll go play his average ball, and we'll forget all about him.

    Just like that CB we used to have who left because he wanted to start....what was his name again?

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    Smoot may be the exception with regard to fan dislike due to being an over paid free agent.

    Smoot was one of those players who gets paid the big contract and lays down; the antithesis of professional.
    I suspect Ray Edwards will do the same and that's why I will not be disappointed if he leaves.

    As you correctly point out, free agency is period of fiscal irresponsibility.

    Wealthy owners are used to buying whatever they want, so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise.
    And despite their spending ways the business model continues to allow them to prosper.

    Should Wilf overspend to keep Rice or Edwards?

    I could understand paying for the potential Rice has shown, but not for Ray.

    Ray isn't likely to improve.
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