01-24-2013, 11:46 AM #31
01-24-2013, 12:11 PM #32
Audie - will he take the next step.
Jasper - will he continue to evolve.
Fusco - will he finally stabilize the line.
Felton - Can you imagine him next year.
Smitty - Same thing as Felton.
Blanton - Might be our answer next to Smitty.
Kalil, Rudy, Dean, Reed, Burton, Sherel,........
A serious look at this team and the potential that is there really makes me excited to see how they all progress.
Truth is, the only players I didn't see get better this year were Webb, Scwartz and some backups that didn't get to play like Berger.
Guys like Chad, Sully, Rob, Everson, Ballard really started to come into their own. Heck, even ole Fred Evans played the best I've seen him play in years.
My only issue is that most fans can't stand to watch guys like Jamarca or Mystral go through the growing pains of learning on the field. Even those two had their moments this year and should be better next year with improved DT play and coaching.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
01-24-2013, 01:12 PM #33
There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
01-24-2013, 05:49 PM #34
01-24-2013, 07:06 PM #35
Did they supplement through FA ... yes ... everyone does.
Did they build through the draft ... abso-fucking-lutely. You cannot look at the rosters and say anything different without looking silly.
SF drafted Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman, Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Colin Kaepernick, four-fifths of their STELLAR offensive line, Frank Gore, Dashon Goldson and Tarell Brown.
Baltimore drafted Joe Flacco, Ray Rice, Torrey Smith, Dennis Pitta, three fifths of their offensive line, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Ed Reed, Josh Bynes, Albert McClellan, Courtney Upshaw and Pernell McPhee.
That is pretty much all of the major contributors on BOTH teams except for Rogers and Justin Smith, who were two gambles that paid off for the 49ers because they both had underperformed with their previous teams.
You list Manningham, Moss and Ginn and Boldin and Jones as if they are huge deals, they simply are not. They are nice pieces, but they are normal free agent signings that could easily be replaced.
The LARGE majority of players that make these team's tick came from the draft. And that is why they are where they are. The DRAFT is the key to making it to the big dance.
Obviously a few little free agent signings here and there are important ... but to think "Building Through the Draft" is a myth and then try to use these two teams to explain that is a little silly.
01-24-2013, 08:58 PM #36
SF drafted Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis, Navarro Bowman, Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Colin Kaepernick, four-fifths of their STELLAR offensive line, Frank Gore, Dashon Goldson and Tarell Brown. [/QUOTE]
Actually 3/5ths of their line. Other guy is a FA. You got it. However, I already showed that 10 out of 22 starters are from FAs. No matter how you slight it, that's almost half their starters.
01-24-2013, 10:27 PM #37
I have no idea where you are coming up with 10 of 22. I named 13 starters that they drafted (and yes, 4/5ths of their offensive line was drafted by them ... all but the center). So that leaves NINE at most. But hey in fact have 15 drafted starters. And acting like Justin Smith was not an underperformer in Cincinnati and then calling me out for "not watching teams" is ridiculous. He was a serious underperformer there as was Rogers here in the nation's capital. By the way ... Bryant McKinnie did start vs. Colts and the last couple of weeks ... but the were the FIRST STARTS THIS SEASON (and only because of injury. He is not a starter anymore) — Bryant McKinnie Earns High Grades In First Start
So, the 49ers have 15 starters they drafted (49ers.com | Depth Chart). The Ravens have 14 (Baltimore Ravens | Depth Chart). That is 29 of 44. And the point isn't that they have some free agents ... obviously everyone has those.
The point is THEY ARE CLEARLY BUILT THROUGH THE DRAFT. The most important players they have on BOTH sides of the ball are players they DRAFTED. Both starting QBs, RBs, TEs and top WRs were DRAFTED.
Ravens: 100% of their passing yards came from players THEY DRAFTED. 97% of their rushing yards came from players THEY DRAFTED. 63% of their receiving yards came from people THEY DRAFTED. 84% of their sacks came from players THEY DRAFTED. 54% of their defensive interceptions came from players THEY DRAFTED.
49ers: 100% of their passing yards came from players THEY DRAFTED. 97% of their rushing yards came from players THEY DRAFTED. 75% of their receiving yards came from players THEY DRAFTED. 75% of their sacks came from players THEY DRAFTED. 79% of their defensive interceptions came from players THEY DRAFTED.
I don't know how to spell it out for you anymore than that. These two teams built through the draft. They are completely the epitome of teams building through the draft. Sure, both teams have solid contributors that they got elsewhere (Birk, Boldin, Cary Williams, J. Smith, Rogers, Whitner, Moss) but to act like those guys are the reason these teams are here more than the players THEY DRAFTED that accounted for a large percentage of ALL production is ridiculous.
Does not matter if 60% of the players starting on both teams are free agents if ALL THE PRODUCTION comes from players the team drafted. In this case though 29 of 44 starters were drafted according to the team's own website depth charts (66%).
I am not going to say free agents are not important ... they clearly are ... but building through the draft certainly is not a myth as both these teams clearly did just that.
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01-25-2013, 04:43 AM #38
"If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"
01-25-2013, 04:47 AM #39
01-25-2013, 04:51 AM #40