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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    You both look like idiots, arguing on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded

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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    Seems like we have mostly narrowed it down to 3 people and I am going to ad a 4th ... none of which are Herschel Walker ...
    Just missing the cut includes Randall Cunningham (Pro-Bowl in 1998), Warren Moon (Pro-Bowls in 1994-1995) and John Gilliam (4-time Pro-Bowler)
    Going to the tale of the tape after players were "acquired"

    Fran Tarkenton (1972-1978): 1,611-2,670, 60.3%, 18,519 yards, 126 TDs, 99 INTs, 81.5 Passer rating, 3 Pro-Bowls, 3 Super Bowls (73, 74, 76), 69-29-2 Record (70.4%) (Teams' record Tark actually missed seven games) and a playoff record of 7-6
    Season averages: 230-381, 2,646 yds, 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 10-4 record
    Postseason (11 games): 149-292, 51%, 1803 yards, 11 TDs, 17 INTs
    Postseason game avgs: 14-27, 164 YDs, 1 TD, 1.5 INTs, 58.6 Passer Rating

    John Randle (1990-2000): 114 sacks, 1 INT, Approx. 489 tackles, 25 Forced fumbles, 6 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team record (60.2%) and a playoff record of 4-8.
    Season averages: 44.5 tackles, 10.4 sacks, 2.3 forced fumbles, 10-6 record
    Could not find playoff statistics

    Cris Carter (1990-2000): 1004 receptions, 12,383 yards, 110 TDs, 8 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team Record and a playoff record of 4-8
    Season averages: 91.3 receptions, 1,126 yards, 10 TDs, 10-6 record
    Postseason (12 games): 60 receptions, 837 yards, 8 TDs
    Postseason game avgs.: 5 receptions, 70 yards, .67 TDs

    Ahmad Rashad (1976-1982): 400 receptions, 5489 yards, 34 TDs, 56-43-2 Record, 4 Pro-Bowls, 3-4 Playoff Record
    Postseason (7 games): 20 receptions, 278 YDs, 1TD

    When it comes down to it I am going to have to say the best acquisitions are:
    6. Warren Moon
    5. John Gilliam
    4. Ahmad Rashad
    3. Fran Tarkenton
    2. John Randle
    1. CRIS CARTER

    Randle and Carter are clearly Hall of Fame type players while with the Vikings ... while Fran got us to three Super Bowls he threw a high number of picks (something this board loves to bash Brett Favre for while looking the other way on Tark) and was not a good performer in the playoffs.
    Carter made 5 more Pro-Bowls than Fran in an era where there were more teams and more players.
    So, there is some stats to add to these arguments ... which remember are just opinions everyone! So remember to have fun gentleman and ladies. This Vikings' historian does not have time to do this stuff everyday.

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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Seems like we have mostly narrowed it down to 3 people and I am going to ad a 4th ... none of which are Herschel Walker ...
    Just missing the cut includes Randall Cunningham (Pro-Bowl in 1998), Warren Moon (Pro-Bowls in 1994-1995) and John Gilliam (4-time Pro-Bowler)
    Going to the tale of the tape after players were "acquired"

    Fran Tarkenton (1972-1978): 1,611-2,670, 60.3%, 18,519 yards, 126 TDs, 99 INTs, 81.5 Passer rating, 3 Pro-Bowls, 3 Super Bowls (73, 74, 76), 69-29-2 Record (70.4%) (Teams' record Tark actually missed seven games) and a playoff record of 7-6
    Season averages: 230-381, 2,646 yds, 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 10-4 record
    Postseason (11 games): 149-292, 51%, 1803 yards, 11 TDs, 17 INTs
    Postseason game avgs: 14-27, 164 YDs, 1 TD, 1.5 INTs, 58.6 Passer Rating

    John Randle (1990-2000): 114 sacks, 1 INT, Approx. 489 tackles, 25 Forced fumbles, 6 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team record (60.2%) and a playoff record of 4-8.
    Season averages: 44.5 tackles, 10.4 sacks, 2.3 forced fumbles, 10-6 record
    Could not find playoff statistics

    Cris Carter (1990-2000): 1004 receptions, 12,383 yards, 110 TDs, 8 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team Record and a playoff record of 4-8
    Season averages: 91.3 receptions, 1,126 yards, 10 TDs, 10-6 record
    Postseason (12 games): 60 receptions, 837 yards, 8 TDs
    Postseason game avgs.: 5 receptions, 70 yards, .67 TDs

    Ahmad Rashad (1976-1982): 400 receptions, 5489 yards, 34 TDs, 56-43-2 Record, 4 Pro-Bowls, 3-4 Playoff Record
    Postseason (7 games): 20 receptions, 278 YDs, 1TD

    When it comes down to it I am going to have to say the best acquisitions are:
    6. Warren Moon
    5. John Gilliam
    4. Ahmad Rashad
    3. Fran Tarkenton
    2. John Randle
    1. CRIS CARTER

    Randle and Carter are clearly Hall of Fame type players while with the Vikings ... while Fran got us to three Super Bowls he threw a high number of picks (something this board loves to bash Brett Favre for while looking the other way on Tark) and was not a good performer in the playoffs.
    Carter made 5 more Pro-Bowls than Fran in an era where there were more teams and more players.
    So, there is some stats to add to these arguments ... which remember are just opinions everyone! So remember to have fun gentleman and ladies. This Vikings' historian does not have time to do this stuff everyday.
    that was a damn good post.
    interesting stuff
    LET THAT WHICH DOES NOT MATTER, TRULY SLIDE

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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Seems like we have mostly narrowed it down to 3 people and I am going to ad a 4th ... none of which are Herschel Walker ...
    Just missing the cut includes Randall Cunningham (Pro-Bowl in 1998), Warren Moon (Pro-Bowls in 1994-1995) and John Gilliam (4-time Pro-Bowler)
    Going to the tale of the tape after players were "acquired"

    Fran Tarkenton (1972-1978): 1,611-2,670, 60.3%, 18,519 yards, 126 TDs, 99 INTs, 81.5 Passer rating, 3 Pro-Bowls, 3 Super Bowls (73, 74, 76), 69-29-2 Record (70.4%) (Teams' record Tark actually missed seven games) and a playoff record of 7-6
    Season averages: 230-381, 2,646 yds, 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 10-4 record
    Postseason (11 games): 149-292, 51%, 1803 yards, 11 TDs, 17 INTs
    Postseason game avgs: 14-27, 164 YDs, 1 TD, 1.5 INTs, 58.6 Passer Rating

    John Randle (1990-2000): 114 sacks, 1 INT, Approx. 489 tackles, 25 Forced fumbles, 6 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team record (60.2%) and a playoff record of 4-8.
    Season averages: 44.5 tackles, 10.4 sacks, 2.3 forced fumbles, 10-6 record
    Could not find playoff statistics

    Cris Carter (1990-2000): 1004 receptions, 12,383 yards, 110 TDs, 8 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team Record and a playoff record of 4-8
    Season averages: 91.3 receptions, 1,126 yards, 10 TDs, 10-6 record
    Postseason (12 games): 60 receptions, 837 yards, 8 TDs
    Postseason game avgs.: 5 receptions, 70 yards, .67 TDs

    Ahmad Rashad (1976-1982): 400 receptions, 5489 yards, 34 TDs, 56-43-2 Record, 4 Pro-Bowls, 3-4 Playoff Record
    Postseason (7 games): 20 receptions, 278 YDs, 1TD

    When it comes down to it I am going to have to say the best acquisitions are:
    6. Warren Moon
    5. John Gilliam
    4. Ahmad Rashad
    3. Fran Tarkenton
    2. John Randle
    1. CRIS CARTER

    Randle and Carter are clearly Hall of Fame type players while with the Vikings ... while Fran got us to three Super Bowls he threw a high number of picks (something this board loves to bash Brett Favre for while looking the other way on Tark) and was not a good performer in the playoffs.
    Carter made 5 more Pro-Bowls than Fran in an era where there were more teams and more players.
    So, there is some stats to add to these arguments ... which remember are just opinions everyone! So remember to have fun gentleman and ladies. This Vikings' historian does not have time to do this stuff everyday.
    Big B is right Midg.
    Great post.
    You are a god.

    ;D
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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    Seems like we have mostly narrowed it down to 3 people and I am going to ad a 4th ... none of which are Herschel Walker ...
    Just missing the cut includes Randall Cunningham (Pro-Bowl in 1998), Warren Moon (Pro-Bowls in 1994-1995) and John Gilliam (4-time Pro-Bowler)
    Going to the tale of the tape after players were "acquired"

    Fran Tarkenton (1972-1978): 1,611-2,670, 60.3%, 18,519 yards, 126 TDs, 99 INTs, 81.5 Passer rating, 3 Pro-Bowls, 3 Super Bowls (73, 74, 76), 69-29-2 Record (70.4%) (Teams' record Tark actually missed seven games) and a playoff record of 7-6
    Season averages: 230-381, 2,646 yds, 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 10-4 record
    Postseason (11 games): 149-292, 51%, 1803 yards, 11 TDs, 17 INTs
    Postseason game avgs: 14-27, 164 YDs, 1 TD, 1.5 INTs, 58.6 Passer Rating

    John Randle (1990-2000): 114 sacks, 1 INT, Approx. 489 tackles, 25 Forced fumbles, 6 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team record (60.2%) and a playoff record of 4-8.
    Season averages: 44.5 tackles, 10.4 sacks, 2.3 forced fumbles, 10-6 record
    Could not find playoff statistics

    Cris Carter (1990-2000): 1004 receptions, 12,383 yards, 110 TDs, 8 Pro-Bowls, 106-70 Team Record and a playoff record of 4-8
    Season averages: 91.3 receptions, 1,126 yards, 10 TDs, 10-6 record
    Postseason (12 games): 60 receptions, 837 yards, 8 TDs
    Postseason game avgs.: 5 receptions, 70 yards, .67 TDs

    Ahmad Rashad (1976-1982): 400 receptions, 5489 yards, 34 TDs, 56-43-2 Record, 4 Pro-Bowls, 3-4 Playoff Record
    Postseason (7 games): 20 receptions, 278 YDs, 1TD

    When it comes down to it I am going to have to say the best acquisitions are:
    6. Warren Moon
    5. John Gilliam
    4. Ahmad Rashad
    3. Fran Tarkenton
    2. John Randle
    1. CRIS CARTER

    Randle and Carter are clearly Hall of Fame type players while with the Vikings ... while Fran got us to three Super Bowls he threw a high number of picks (something this board loves to bash Brett Favre for while looking the other way on Tark) and was not a good performer in the playoffs.
    Carter made 5 more Pro-Bowls than Fran in an era where there were more teams and more players.
    So, there is some stats to add to these arguments ... which remember are just opinions everyone! So remember to have fun gentleman and ladies. This Vikings' historian does not have time to do this stuff everyday.
    Big B is right Midg.
    Great post.
    You are a god.

    ;D

    That post was worthy. ;D

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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Big B is right Midg.
    Great post.
    You are a god.


    ;D

    That post was worthy. ;D
    Thanks guys ... I put a lot of work into that post because I was more or less curious to see who I really thought the answer was. It was also very interesting to see that Carter and Randle spent the exact same amount of time here (11 years) and almost all of it was with Denny Green. Contrary to popular opinion, pretty succesful years for the Vikes.

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    Re: Best non draft aquisition in team history

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Big B is right Midg.
    Great post.
    You are a god.

    ;D

    That post was worthy. ;D
    Thanks guys ... I put a lot of work into that post because I was more or less curious to see who I really thought the answer was. It was also very interesting to see that Carter and Randle spent the exact same amount of time here (11 years) and almost all of it was with Denny Green. Contrary to popular opinion, pretty succesful years for the Vikes.
    Green wasn't bad here until he got it in for the Media, wrote a book and then all hell broke loose. His cannon mouuth got him fired. It did the same thing in Arizona with the "We knew what they were" speech.
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