Thread: Is Berrian a No. 1 Wideout?

"i_bleed_purple" wrote:

Moss who??
There was a Santana Moss

Kate Moss..thats who you are thinking of

Is it o'kay to talk about BB here? just checking. I would hate to post in a
T-jack/qb thread. :-\ The guy IS a number 1 wide-out. Wether some folks are "sold" or not. And it does not matter who is throwing the ball. The guy is far and away the best reciever on the team now. The 'Vikes have a couple of nice developing rookies, but Bernard is the best equipped to stretch the field and "catch" the ball. Gee, maybe some folks would like Billy mcwhatshisname or maybe fred whatever, more philly rejects to come play wideout. The guy is "gunna" have a breakout season. The team is real happy about BB. I think most fans are happy as well. It will work out.

"Jereamiah" wrote:

Is it o'kay to talk about BB here? just checking. I would hate to post in a
T-jack/qb thread. :-\ The guy IS a number 1 wide-out. Wether some folks are "sold" or not. And it does not matter who is throwing the ball. The guy is far and away the best reciever on the team now. The 'Vikes have a couple of nice developing rookies, but Bernard is the best equipped to stretch the field and "catch" the ball. Gee, maybe some folks would like Billy mcwhatshisname or maybe fred whatever, more philly rejects to come play wideout. The guy is "gunna" have a breakout season. The team is real happy about BB. I think most fans are happy as well. It will work out.

dont hate on fred=ex lmao

"Schutz" wrote:

"BBQ" wrote:

I trust our scouting department.
Besides, by your logic, as a sixth-rounder, Tom Brady was a bigger "project" than Jackson was.
Johnny Unitas was a NINTH-rounder. And Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Cade McNown were all first-rounders.

The draft is a crapshoot.
If they had enough faith in this Jackson project to move up to draft him in the second round, then I say he's as likely as a first-rounder to pan out.
I'll have the same amount of patience with him as I would for a first-rounder, same as you.
Unlike you, however, this doesn't mean "no patience at all."

tom brady was picked under the assumption that the patriots would always have drew bledsoe as their quarterback..and i did acknowledge that those 'cant miss at the time' guys that you listed didnt always work out..my point was that if alot of those guys dont work out, how can you just assume if we pick up a project, hes gonna work, simply because he happens to be on our team?

i have patience, but having patience in a cant miss top pick, and having patience in a 1-AA raw project that came into the league totally void of any football mental makeup is totally different..he should be learning behind somebody in that situation

I'm not ASSUMING anything.
I'm arguing that it will take time for ANYONE to develop, and that we need to show the same amount of patience for ANY prospect, precisely because EVERYONE starts out as a project (except for an exceptionally rare few).
I think that he will work out judging from how well he played during the second-half winning streak last season.

NO ONE - not a #1 pick OR a second-rounder out of a 1-AA school - is ready for the NFL.
I don't care if they've played at Ohio State, USC, wherever - they're not ready for the radical shift in quality and difficulty that the NFL brings to the table.
Infinity minus 2 is the same as infinity minus 1.
I think Tarvaris has upside, and that's why I haven't abandoned ship yet.
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Randy Moss what?
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It's a lot different for a QB and a WR. give TJ a break. get on him after this year, but not now. What good is this bickering doing anyway? We went through last year with him, we might as well see how he comes around this year before we start throwing him away, or else all of last season was in vain. And it's not like everyone else was doing their job perfectly either. TWills drops, The line's early struggles, AD's poor pass blocking. Our whole offense still has things to learn, so does TJ. So don't blame all of our offensive woes on him.

If I remember right, he actually kept us in the last game of the season. That should be a promising sign AND we should be pumped to see what this hard-working guy develops over the offseason instead of continuously drubbing his earlier mistakes.....

"Braddock" wrote:

"Schutz" wrote:

"BBQ" wrote:

I trust our scouting department.
Besides, by your logic, as a sixth-rounder, Tom Brady was a bigger "project" than Jackson was.
Johnny Unitas was a NINTH-rounder. And Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Cade McNown were all first-rounders.

The draft is a crapshoot.
If they had enough faith in this Jackson project to move up to draft him in the second round, then I say he's as likely as a first-rounder to pan out.
I'll have the same amount of patience with him as I would for a first-rounder, same as you.
Unlike you, however, this doesn't mean "no patience at all."

tom brady was picked under the assumption that the patriots would always have drew bledsoe as their quarterback..and i did acknowledge that those 'cant miss at the time' guys that you listed didnt always work out..my point was that if alot of those guys dont work out, how can you just assume if we pick up a project, hes gonna work, simply because he happens to be on our team?

i have patience, but having patience in a cant miss top pick, and having patience in a 1-AA raw project that came into the league totally void of any football mental makeup is totally different..he should be learning behind somebody in that situation

I'm not ASSUMING anything.
I'm arguing that it will take time for ANYONE to develop, and that we need to show the same amount of patience for ANY prospect, precisely because EVERYONE starts out as a project (except for an exceptionally rare few).
I think that he will work out judging from how well he played during the second-half winning streak last season.

NO ONE - not a #1 pick OR a second-rounder out of a 1-AA school - is ready for the NFL.
I don't care if they've played at Ohio State, USC, wherever - they're not ready for the radical shift in quality and difficulty that the NFL brings to the table.
Infinity minus 2 is the same as infinity minus 1.
I think Tarvaris has upside, and that's why I haven't abandoned ship yet.

Randy Moss what?
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It's a lot different for a QB and a WR. give TJ a break. get on him after this year, but not now. What good is this bickering doing anyway? We went through last year with him, we might as well see how he comes around this year before we start throwing him away, or else all of last season was in vain. And it's not like everyone else was doing their job perfectly either. TWills drops, The line's early struggles, AD's poor pass blocking. Our whole offense still has things to learn, so does TJ. So don't blame all of our offensive woes on him.

If I remember right, he actually kept us in the last game of the season. That should be a promising sign AND we should be pumped to see what this hard-working guy develops over the offseason instead of continuously drubbing his earlier mistakes.....
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Braddock, not sure if that was supposed to be a rant, but it sure looks like one and a DAMN good one at that.

If he shows any signs of improvement this year do you think they will extend his contract?

Excellent post my friend.
;D

Berrian is not even ranked in the top 30 in the NFL 2008: fantasy player rankings (04/28/2008 )
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I guess the folks who made that list doesn't have much faith in Tarvaris Jackson getting him the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=...o&confirm=true

Oh.. by the way, AD is ranked as the second best runningback
;D

"HEY" wrote:

Berrian is not even ranked in the top 30 in the NFL 2008: fantasy player rankings (04/28/2008 )
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I guess the folks who made that list doesn't have much faith in Tarvaris Jackson getting him the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=...o&confirm=true

Oh.. by the way, AD is ranked as the second best runningback
;D

Fantasy rankings are not the same as player rankings.
Any WR on the Vikings will be ranked lower regardless of skill.
Why?
Because we have a run first offense and the league's best running back tandem.

Hell, I think Berrian will have a great year and earn the money he is getting - but I still wouldn't draft him as my first or second fantasy QB.

"HEY" wrote:

Berrian is not even ranked in the top 30 in the NFL 2008: fantasy player rankings (04/28/2008 )

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I guess the folks who made that list doesn't have much faith in Tarvaris Jackson getting him the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=...o&confirm=true

Oh.. by the way, AD is ranked as the second best runningback

;D

Fantasy rankings are based upon fantasy point potentials given a particular scoring system and should never be used as a point of discussion in real-world football threads.

Whether or not Fantasy Scoring System A likes Bernard Berrien has no bearing on whether or not he will make the catches that a "#1" receiver needs to make.

=Z=

I see Berrian as a very good deep-threat receiver. So yes, I would say he is a nr. 1 wideout.

he,s the #1 on this team for now.
i think he has a little chip on his shoulder since the bears wouldnt give him the money he wanted, that should play out in our favor.
other teams will have to worry about the deep threat more now and that will open things a little more for the 2 headed monster.
his stats may not be great but hopefully his impact will show in other areas.