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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    Again folks:
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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    BJ for TJ? Not going to happen until the Vikings have been eliminated from the playoffs during the regular season.
    I could see Childress giving some playing time to TJ for a series down the stretch to change things up ( ala.. Kordell Stewart/Neil O'Donnell) or if a game got outta hand, but BJ gives the Vikings the best chance to win.


    We are lucky to have BJ as QB.
    He has such an uncanny ability to implement his knowledge of the game & discipline to play within his phycial limitations.
    BJ's time is now, he can still get it done.


    The Vikes do not have a QB competition like some other cities; Dallas, Denver, Miami, etc, because there is not another QB on the roster other than BJ that has either the experience (TJ) nor the talent (Bollinger) to consistantly play the position right now.

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    "Prophet" wrote:
    Especially when they come from a small college.
    Come on people, it's not like he came from a SEC school where every week he was facing the top ranked schools in the nation.
    Even if that was the case it would be the exception to the rule for him to perform well as a rookie.
    Amazing.
    If Childress and crew, based on decades of experience, do not think he is ready, he is not ready.
    Just out of curiosity, how many big name QBs, past or present, that made it in the NFL
    played for small colleges?

    It would seem that back in the day, a lot of them did come from bigger name colleges, because if a guy was talented, he would be recruited by that college.

    But in todays age with recruiting laws getting stricter & stricter, a very talented QB could come out of any college. What they would be lacking though is the quality level of the coaching staff that a big name college is more likely to have.

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    Someone else can better answer that question, but the QB that everyone likes to throw out there is McNair, who played right down the road from where I live at Alcorn State University.
    He took a while to get geared up to be the man like he is now at the NFL level.
    There is heavy recruitments going on, no doubt.


    In the same state, just up the road, Mississipp State (SEC) plays five of their games against top 20 teams this year.
    Even when you're playing top 20 teams there are still soft spots on the rosters and it ain't like playing in the NFL by any means, at least it's more competitive than the small school's competition.
    Most years, even a poohie team like Mississippi State could wipe their jiggly butt with Alcorn State University's football team.
    It would be surprising if a QB hero from a small school would come in as a hero in his first year in the NFL, and highly unlikely.
    Possible?
    Sure.
    Probable?
    Hell no.

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    i really think that with a new coach and new pretty much everything, its not just about the development of TJ but the development of the team.

    the defence is brilliant off to the right start, but we have lots of areas that need to be perfected.

    i think once we get everything in place(that will come with drafting and FA in the following years) and this will be imo a 3 year project, we can insert a prepared TJ to take over a team tailored for him. a dominant d that will keep points off the board and give you the ball. an oline to dominate for years to come and a solid run game to set up the pass. and let TJ do what he does, with his God given ability.

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    There is no way johnson is QB next year, he cannot do it anymore he has proven that already this year.
    This D is good, but it is no where as good at the ravens when they won the SB with a horrible O.
    We need a QB that can get the job done.
    If johnson is the starter next year, the vikings are showing the fans they have no intentions on aiming for the SB.
    You republican whore!

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    BJ is our best bet at this point. He does a good job of controlling the ball. I am of the mind that play calling is the culprit in the red zone. Well that, and inconsistancy on the part of our WR corp. Still, getting 3 points is far better than turning the ball over. I have faith that Childress will make the appropriate adjustments to better the chances of getting a TD.
    I do look forward to Jackson making his entrance when the time is right. But in the meantime I will enjoy BJ's steadfast and competent leadership.


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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    The rookie in tampa looks pretty good, i dont think he came from miami.
    If the guy has the ability, he deserves a shot, if this team wants to put up 3 and lose, keep what we have in there, if they want to put up numbers, they need a new play caller.

    Johnson is done, he cannot score enough TD's.
    If we had just one more TD a game this team would be 5-0.
    With the settle for 3 attitude we have, we are 3-2.
    We lost two games because our O did not do enough to win.

    If we would have gone down the field against chicago and buffalo and scored 7 instead of 3, we would be 5-0.
    In both of the opening drives our QB refused to throw it into the endzone.
    Not even one shot.

    A QB needs to be able to manage the game, I respect that from people, he also needs the balls to hit the endzone before the 4th quarter, he doesnt have that.
    You republican whore!

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    Re: The Answer to "When should we put TJ in for BJ?"

    "PurpleRide" wrote:
    The rookie in tampa looks pretty good, i dont think he came from miami.
    If the guy has the ability, he deserves a shot, if this team wants to put up 3 and lose, keep what we have in there, if they want to put up numbers, they need a new play caller.

    Johnson is done, he cannot score enough TD's.
    If we had just one more TD a game this team would be 5-0.
    With the settle for 3 attitude we have, we are 3-2.
    We lost two games because our O did not do enough to win.

    If we would have gone down the field against chicago and buffalo and scored 7 instead of 3, we would be 5-0.
    In both of the opening drives our QB refused to throw it into the endzone.
    Not even one shot.

    A QB needs to be able to manage the game, I respect that from people, he also needs the balls to hit the endzone before the 4th quarter, he doesnt have that.
    It has been annoying that the Vikings have consistently moved the ball down the field on their first drive and not scored seven.
    Playing the 'if' game gets crazy.
    You could say that for any play.

    The first drive in the Bears game:

    1-10-MIN19 (14:56) B.Johnson pass short left to T.Williamson to MIN 38 for 19 yards (N.Vasher, B.Urlacher).
    1-10-MIN38 (14:16) C.Taylor left end to MIN 46 for 8 yards (B.Urlacher).
    2-2-MIN46 (13:35) C.Taylor right guard to MIN 44 for -2 yards (B.Urlacher).
    3-4-MIN44 (12:51) (Shotgun) B.Johnson pass deep right to T.Taylor to CHI 20 for 36 yards (D.Manning, C.Tillman).
    1-10-CHI20 (12:13) B.Johnson pass incomplete deep right to T.Taylor.
    2-10-CHI20 (12:08) C.Taylor right guard to CHI 18 for 2 yards (M.Brown, B.Urlacher).
    3-8-CHI18 (11:32) B.Johnson pass to M.Moore to CHI 13 for 5 yards (L.Briggs).
    4-3-CHI13 (10:52) R.Longwell 31 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-C.Loeffler, Holder-C.Kluwe.
    CHI 0

    MIN 3,

    Plays: 8

    Yards: 68

    Possession: 4:11.
    There were eight plays and 25% of the plays were the deep ball (what the Vikings never use according to some).
    On 3rd and 8 MeMo gets a short pass and comes up 3 yds short.
    Field goal.

    What about the Bills game?

    1-10-MIN20 (15:00) C.Taylor up the middle to MIN 18 for -2 yards (K.Ellison, C.Kelsay).
    2-12-MIN18 (14:22) C.Taylor right tackle to MIN 24 for 6 yards (K.Ellison, A.Schobel).
    PENALTY on BUF-T.Anderson, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at MIN 18 - No Play.
    2-7-MIN23 (13:54) T.Taylor left end to MIN 28 for 5 yards (L.Fletcher-Baker). Reverse, handoff from B.Johnson.
    3-2-MIN28 (13:09) B.Johnson pass short right to M.Robinson to MIN 40 for 12 yards (N.Clements). Caught along left sideline at MIN 37. Penalty on BUF-K.Thomas, Defensive Holding, declined.
    1-10-MIN40 (12:50) B.Johnson pass incomplete short right to T.Taylor. Underthrown, WR screen, receiver at MIN 40.
    2-10-MIN40 (12:46) B.Johnson pass incomplete deep left to T.Williamson. Overthrown, receiver at BUF 25.
    3-10-MIN40 (12:39) B.Johnson pass short right to T.Richardson to BUF 35 for 25 yards (D.Whitner, L.Fletcher-Baker). Caught in flat at MIN 45.
    1-10-BUF35 (11:54) B.Johnson pass incomplete short middle to T.Taylor (N.Clements). Receiver and coverage at BUF 20.
    2-10-BUF35 (11:50) B.Johnson pass short left to T.Williamson to BUF 24 for 11 yards (N.Clements, R.Denney). Caught at BUF 24.
    1-10-BUF24 (11:09) C.Taylor up the middle to BUF 19 for 5 yards (D.Whitner, A.Schobel).
    2-5-BUF19 (10:29) C.Taylor left guard to BUF 18 for 1 yard (A.Crowell, L.Tripplett).
    3-4-BUF18 (9:50) B.Johnson pass short right to T.Taylor to BUF 13 for 5 yards (K.Ellison). Dump pass, caught at BUF 15.
    PENALTY on MIN-T.Taylor, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at BUF 18 - No Play.
    3-14-BUF28 (9:22) M.Moore left tackle to BUF 19 for 9 yards (D.Whitner, T.Anderson).
    4-5-BUF19 (8:44) R.Longwell 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-C.Loeffler, Holder-C.Kluwe.
    MIN 3

    BUF 0,

    Plays: 12

    Yards: 61

    Possession: 6:20.
    Again, caught in a 3rd in short in their first set of downs, this time M. Robinson pulls in the catch for 12 yds and moves the chains.
    The first two passes of the next set of downs are underthrown and overthrown to Williamson followed by a 3rd and 10 short pass to Richardson for 25 yds.
    T Williamson picks up the next 1st on a 2nd and 10.
    The final set of downs on this drive starts off with a few runs by C. Taylor to the left side and up the middle leaving them at 3rd and 4.
    Johnson passes the ball to T. Taylor for a gain of 5 and a new set of downs....wait, it is called back on an offensive pass interference leaving the Vikings at 3rd and 14 instead of 1st and 10 at the the 13.
    Field goal.

    To put the blame solely on BJ for the loss in those two games is just craziness.
    The first possessions need to lead to TDs instead of FGs.
    There are teams that get nothing.
    When they shore up the penalites and as the line continues to improve they will be fine.

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