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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    "dcboardr41" wrote:
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    lets hope gus doesnt head butt anything
    floop that, let's put gus in at tackle and let dude go nuts with the head butting
    LMAO amazing, now we can trade BMac and throw gus in at LT
    haha he's probably only good for one play per game before he knocks himself out but it'd be like automatic IR for the opposing DE's

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

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    I still think that Todd Boumann and Gus Frerotte are better than Tarvaris, and they were better than Culpepper. The reason is the following:

    - Ability to read a defense
    - Ability to not get flustered by the blitz
    - Good NFL QB mechanics
    thats absurd
    Culpepper does suck without Moss to throw to.
    This is evidenced by his poor play on every team without Moss and the fact that no team has signed him yet.
    He is dumb and greedy.
    That's why he is not in Minnesota any more.
    Moss sux without having Brady, Culpepper, Moon, Cunningham & George throwing to him. This is evident by his poor play in Oakland.

    :P

    A lot of it has to do with the line these QB's were behind. Our offensive line in 2005 sucked whether Moss was there or not. Birk was out for the season & our whole line was in shambles. Tice was rotating players around for almost half the season.

    If Moss had been there that year, I'm willing to bet we still would have had a similar season behind that line.

    C'mon, Culpepper was behind horeshit lines in both Miami & Oakland as well. How well did those teams fare with the other QB's on those teams? How well did Moss fare in Oakland?

    I for one never expected Culpepper to do well behind the line we had going for us in 2005 the way they played & I certainly didn't expect him to play well for Miami or Oakland either. His career was over the day they carted him off the field.

    Yep, we did do better with Johnson later in the season, but at that point two things happened.

    1. The line settled down & started to play better.

    2. We scrapped the long passing game & went more WCO with Johnson throwing shorter, high percentage passes.


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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    "Json" wrote:
    I still think that Todd Boumann and Gus Frerotte are better than Tarvaris, and they were better than Culpepper. The reason is the following:

    - Ability to read a defense
    - Ability to not get flustered by the blitz
    - Good NFL QB mechanics
    Sorry, but I'm good with T. Jax way more then these other two.
    I just find it amazing that people throw T. Jax under the bus after 1 full season of starting.
    It truly baffles me.
    He's a young kid, coming a very small school, GIVE THE KID SOME TIME, SOME EXPERIENCE, SOME HOPE!!!!
    These same guys will be on the bandwagon when he takes us to the playoffs this year. They all come back but it is sad.

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    We could sign Daunte and make him our 3rd stringer. Embarass the shit out of him.

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

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    We could sign Daunte and make him our 3rd stringer. Embarass the pooh out of him.
    He would take Tj's starting spot!
    My grandmother with a missing leg might create a quarterback controversy.
    ;D :-[ :-[

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

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    We could sign Daunte and make him our 3rd stringer. Embarass the pooh out of him.
    Id take Tarvaris, Frerotte, or Bollinger over Culpepper anyday, floop Daunte...

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    I am sure someone will post the NFL stats for all 3 and then we can see how they stack up to each other.

    I believe both Gus and Bauman are better passers than Jackson but their decision making is not as good as most of the starters in the NFL. At this point Jackson doesn't have any better decision making ability and his passing doesn't look as good. This season that may change and he will solidify his position if it does. If it doesn't he will solidify his future as a backup.

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Json" wrote:
    I still think that Todd Boumann and Gus Frerotte are better than Tarvaris, and they were better than Culpepper. The reason is the following:

    - Ability to read a defense
    - Ability to not get flustered by the blitz
    - Good NFL QB mechanics
    Sorry, but I'm good with T. Jax way more then these other two.
    I just find it amazing that people throw T. Jax under the bus after 1 full season of starting.
    It truly baffles me.
    He's a young kid, coming a very small school, GIVE THE KID SOME TIME, SOME EXPERIENCE, SOME HOPE!!!!
    These same guys will be on the bandwagon when he takes us to the playoffs this year. They all come back but it is sad.
    Or all the kool aid drinkers will jump off the bandwagon if we miss the playoffs.
    What's your point?
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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    I will forever have a bitter taste in my mouth about Culpepper and the way he whined his way off our team.
    I supported him through thick and thin (not necessarily on these boards, but still...), and then when shit hit the fan his true colors came through.

    That being said, the discredit he gets as a "sucky" QB astounds me sometimes.
    Did he struggle reading defenses? Sure.
    Did he have midget hands and average over a fumble per game?
    Absolutely. He was an above average QB when facing mediocre or lesser competition, and he was an average to below average QB when facing tougher competition.
    Bottom line is he gave Viking nation better overall numbers than any QB since the golden years.
    He should get that credit.

    I am not even gonna speak on Bouman. The guy has never won a starting job or anyone's confidence to give him a starting job.


    Now Gus, I like.
    He was a late (6th i think) round pick for the Skins when he came in the league.
    He beat out a 3rd overall draft pick (i think thats right) Heath Schuler and wound up being selected to the ProBowl early in his career.
    I think he has always worked hard and did what his coaches asked of him.
    Is the next Gannon, (someone who blossoms in year 11 of his career) ?
    I don't think so.
    But he is better than Holcomb and Bollinger put together.
    I like the signing.

    TJack deserves the patience given to every other f*cking starting QB in the league.
    Aikman? 1-15 in his first year.
    Manning? not much better.
    Romo? 4 years on the bench before he started a full season.
    Gerrard? 4-5 years behind leftwich?
    I don't know if these starts are 100%, but they are close.
    I am not saying Tjack will be as good as these guys, but he deserves the time they got.
    That's for damn sure.

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    Re: Another year, another quarterback for Vikings

    Ferotte?!

    spit
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    yuk.

    haven't we already been there done that?


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