10-06-2013, 11:13 AM #11
the guy is bad enough on his own but some stat double checking can be done on some of the bolder statements
10-06-2013, 11:32 AM #12
Last season, Ponder had one touchdown from the opponents 49-20 and no home run balls from inside Vikings territory. Adrian Petterson had four home runs from Vikings territory including runs of 82 and 74 yards.
This season, Adrian Petterson has two home run touchdowns from Vikingland, and Christian Ponder has none in three games. Matt "The Grinch" Cassel has one in one game.
10-06-2013, 11:52 AM #13
ESPN is the one I used. I start with the "BY PASS PLAY" split stat which shows how far the ball was thrown & if there were TD's.
Yes he has thrown 2 TD's within the opponents 49-20. They were from the opponents 20, which is the redzone.
The red zone refers to the last 20 yards before the end zone on the football field.
He's thrown 2 TD's this year, 1 was a 4 yarder to AD. The 2nd was this one.
Kyle Rudolph 20 Yd Pass From Christian Ponder (Blair Walsh Kick)
As to last year, I haven't dug out the exact game, but this should clear it up regarding 2012;
Perhaps most surprising was that Ponder threw 18 red zone touchdowns, which tied him for eighth among NFL QBs.
Now, using the same source, anyone can see Ponder only threw 18 TD's last year.
Christian Ponder Stats - Minnesota Vikings - ESPN
If he only threw 18 of them & all 18 were in the redzone, then simple math shows 0 of them were thrown from outside the redzone.
I went back & found the TD pass fron 2012 that was from the opponents 20 (redzone)
Kyle Rudolph 20 Yd Pass From Christian Ponder (Adrian Peterson Run For Two-Point Conversion)
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10-06-2013, 12:39 PM #14Asst. Coach
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Week 13, December 4th 2011 vs Denver (The Tebow game) was the last time Ponder had a TD pass from outside the RZ. He had 2 outside the RZ TD passes in that game, however the 52 yarder was an 8 yard pass that PH took to the house, and the 48 yarder was a 2 yard pass that PH took to the house. He's had 665 pass attempts since. Has he even had a TD pass that went longer than 20 yards in the air in his career?
But to steer this back to AD, AD has had 6 home runs from outside the RZ since the Broncos game. And don't forget, he also had a 78 yard run at Seattle that wasn't a TD. He's had a few 50+ yard runs that haven't gone for TD's.
Longest TD's since Ponders last outside the RZ TD vs Denver ...
65 yard TD run by Webb 2011 week 14 at DET
23 yard TD run by Ponder 2012 week 3 vs SF
105 yard TD KR by Harving 2012 week 4 at DET
77 yard TD PR by Sherels 2012 week 4 at DET
31 yard TD INT by Smith 2012 week 7 vs ARZ
64 yard TD run by Peterson 2012 week 8 vs TB
61 yard TD run by Peterson 2012 week 10 vs DET
82 yard TD run by Peterson 2012 week 13 at GB
56 yard TD INT by Smith 2012 week 14 vs CHI
82 yard TD run by Peterson 2012 week 15 at STL
29 yard TD INT by Griffen 2012 week 15 at STL
50 yard TD pass by Webb (to Jenkins) 2012 playoffs at GB
78 yard TD run by Peterson 2013 week 1 at DET
105 yard TD KR by Patterson 2013 week 2 at CHI
61 yard TD fumble by Robison 2013 week 2 at CHI
70 yard TD pass by Cassel (to Jennings) 2013 week 4 vs PIT
60 yard TD run by Peterson 2013 week 4 PIT
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10-06-2013, 12:56 PM #15
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10-06-2013, 01:43 PM #17Asst. Coach
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That quick hitch to Jennings that went for a 70 yard TD is an example. If Ponder makes that same throw he's probably late and "floats" a careful pass to Jennings. Jennings is then immediately tackled for an 8 yard gain, or the defender makes a play. Cassel read it quick and threw a fastball, before the defense could react Jennings was on the move.
10-06-2013, 04:40 PM #18