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    Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

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    Apparently, there are standards and there are Adrian Peterson standards. Setting records and being compared to the best ever, as an NFL rookie, would be plenty for most players....



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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    A very nice read my friend.
    Thanks......

    All that despite the fact that he missed two games with a knee injury, and his effectiveness was restricted when he returned in December, due to both the injury and the Vikings' offensive limitations
    I still say that this had alot to do with his production late in the year......
    Props to AD for coming back so fast.

    Peterson was a celebrity counselor Monday at William and Mary's annual summer football camp, courtesy of his and the camp's affiliation with Nike.
    This was all over the news this morning.
    I wish I would have heard about it.
    I would have made a trip up to see him.
    Hell, I was looking for an excuse to leave work early yesterday.
    ;D

    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    What is this thing "Watching Film" in the offseason he speaks of? I thought they didn't do that.....(sarcasim alert).

    Again, with the timing and beating stacked boxes.
    I still say that the knee hindered some of that a bit as well.

    "As far as the wear and tear on your body and getting hit every play," Peterson said, "it definitely can prolong your career. I like it
    And yet some of us think CT can't share the load with AD and he will want to go someplace.
    I think CT will be a Vike as long as the FO thinks he warrants a contract.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

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    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "AngloVike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.
    ;D
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "AngloVike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.
    ;D
    The problem with the 8 and 9 man boxes is it's all the initial wave... look at CT's run against San Fran... if you break that surge you're gone... you can bet our blockers are going to get better at blocking those zone blitzes and if AD can be patient enough for someone to make a mistake, he's going to make teams pay BIG time for having so many guys committed to the LOS.
    In a normal Defense, you have 3 layers... the D line who can stop a RB for a 1 yard gain, the LBs who can stop the RB for a 3 - 5 yard gain, and the safeties who can stop him for a 8 - 12 yard gain... the run blitzes we faced last year really create an all or nothing situation... unfortunately we saw too much of the nothing last year... this year with AD's added knowledge from watching film, I expect we'll start seeing a lot more alls and see the D's back off that strategy for fear of giving up the home runs.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "AngloVike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.

    ;D
    The problem with the 8 and 9 man boxes is it's all the initial wave... look at CT's run against San Fran... if you break that surge you're gone... you can bet our blockers are going to get better at blocking those zone blitzes and if AD can be patient enough for someone to make a mistake, he's going to make teams pay BIG time for having so many guys committed to the LOS.
    In a normal Defense, you have 3 layers... the D line who can stop a RB for a 1 yard gain, the LBs who can stop the RB for a 3 - 5 yard gain, and the safeties who can stop him for a 8 - 12 yard gain... the run blitzes we faced last year really create an all or nothing situation... unfortunately we saw too much of the nothing last year... this year with AD's added knowledge from watching film, I expect we'll start seeing a lot more alls and see the D's back off that strategy for fear of giving up the home runs.
    That is an excellent point my friend.
    ;D
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "AngloVike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.

    ;D
    The problem with the 8 and 9 man boxes is it's all the initial wave... look at CT's run against San Fran... if you break that surge you're gone... you can bet our blockers are going to get better at blocking those zone blitzes and if AD can be patient enough for someone to make a mistake, he's going to make teams pay BIG time for having so many guys committed to the LOS.
    In a normal Defense, you have 3 layers... the D line who can stop a RB for a 1 yard gain, the LBs who can stop the RB for a 3 - 5 yard gain, and the safeties who can stop him for a 8 - 12 yard gain... the run blitzes we faced last year really create an all or nothing situation... unfortunately we saw too much of the nothing last year... this year with AD's added knowledge from watching film, I expect we'll start seeing a lot more alls and see the D's back off that strategy for fear of giving up the home runs.
    That is an excellent point my friend.

    ;D
    I am not sure being more patient is the answer. It seemed to me that most of Petersons best runs came when he took the ball and sprinted as fast as he could towards the line of scrimmage, by the time the defense relaxed he was gone. He average 5.6 yards per carry last year, I would hate to see him try to change his game and running style because it seems more likely that it would hurt him. If he is more patient and it does improve his game watch out. He could have 7 yard per carry average.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=45879.msg795491#msg795491 date=1214311339]


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.

    ;D
    The problem with the 8 and 9 man boxes is it's all the initial wave... look at CT's run against San Fran... if you break that surge you're gone... you can bet our blockers are going to get better at blocking those zone blitzes and if AD can be patient enough for someone to make a mistake, he's going to make teams pay BIG time for having so many guys committed to the LOS.
    In a normal Defense, you have 3 layers... the D line who can stop a RB for a 1 yard gain, the LBs who can stop the RB for a 3 - 5 yard gain, and the safeties who can stop him for a 8 - 12 yard gain... the run blitzes we faced last year really create an all or nothing situation... unfortunately we saw too much of the nothing last year... this year with AD's added knowledge from watching film, I expect we'll start seeing a lot more alls and see the D's back off that strategy for fear of giving up the home runs.
    That is an excellent point my friend.

    ;D
    I am not sure being more patient is the answer. It seemed to me that most of Petersons best runs came when he took the ball and sprinted as fast as he could towards the line of scrimmage, by the time the defense relaxed he was gone. He average 5.6 yards per carry last year, I would hate to see him try to change his game and running style because it seems more likely that it would hurt him. If he is more patient and it does improve his game watch out. He could have 7 yard per carry average.
    [/quote]
    I agree with you to a point, however, sometimes you have to let the blocking (not just the OL but WR, TE's FB etc) develop in front of you as well.
    If everyone gets it done at all levels the big ones come.


    If you just hit the line real quick in order to beat the OL aspect, the LB, S, CB etc will have a shot at ya then.

    I think what AD is saying is that he has to get better at recognizing when to hit it full steam and when to let things develop a bit.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson - Just a nice start

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "AngloVike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:


    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    now that is scary.. Watching a review of AD from last year one of his big points was his patience. If he is saying that he wasn't patient enough then I dread to think how many yards he could rack up this year if he tightens up that aspect of his game, then the 8 man fronts will still not be enough.
    I've been trying to make the point on here for some time that RB's have been beating 8 and 9 man fronts long before AD came along.

    Fact of the matter is, he had some decent runs last year with stacked boxes as well.

    Hard for some to understand that even the great AD has room to grow/learn his craft.

    ;D
    The problem with the 8 and 9 man boxes is it's all the initial wave... look at CT's run against San Fran... if you break that surge you're gone... you can bet our blockers are going to get better at blocking those zone blitzes and if AD can be patient enough for someone to make a mistake, he's going to make teams pay BIG time for having so many guys committed to the LOS.
    In a normal Defense, you have 3 layers... the D line who can stop a RB for a 1 yard gain, the LBs who can stop the RB for a 3 - 5 yard gain, and the safeties who can stop him for a 8 - 12 yard gain... the run blitzes we faced last year really create an all or nothing situation... unfortunately we saw too much of the nothing last year... this year with AD's added knowledge from watching film, I expect we'll start seeing a lot more alls and see the D's back off that strategy for fear of giving up the home runs.
    That is an excellent point my friend.

    ;D
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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    A very nice read my friend.
    Thanks......

    All that despite the fact that he missed two games with a knee injury, and his effectiveness was restricted when he returned in December, due to both the injury and the Vikings' offensive limitations
    I still say that this had alot to do with his production late in the year......
    Props to AD for coming back so fast.

    Peterson was a celebrity counselor Monday at William and Mary's annual summer football camp, courtesy of his and the camp's affiliation with Nike.
    This was all over the news this morning.
    I wish I would have heard about it.
    I would have made a trip up to see him.
    Hell, I was looking for an excuse to leave work early yesterday.

    ;D

    "When I watched the film after the games," he said, "and being able to watch a lot of film in the offseason, I found out it was really me. I was not being patient enough.

    "It's little things like that, that can definitely make a world of difference: being a little more patient; not rushing; getting your steps right; being in sync with the offensive line. It was little details like that, that really made that 8- or 9-man front hard to run against."
    What is this thing "Watching Film" in the offseason he speaks of? I thought they didn't do that.....(sarcasim alert).

    Again, with the timing and beating stacked boxes.
    I still say that the knee hindered some of that a bit as well.

    "As far as the wear and tear on your body and getting hit every play," Peterson said, "it definitely can prolong your career. I like it
    And yet some of us think CT can't share the load with AD and he will want to go someplace.
    I think CT will be a Vike as long as the FO thinks he warrants a contract.
    That ship is getting closer and closer to sailing on CT.
    His legacy may go down as being a great backup to a couple great running backs.
    I am glad he is here and thinks he makes us better.
    If I were Chester though, I would have a hard time always playing second fiddle when I knew I could be the feautred back on some other team.
    CT's personality may be fine with not being the featured guy, most pro-athletes would have a hard time with this when they felt they could be the #1 guy somewhere else.
    If you win a couple SB's, I guess that helps with the whole legacy issue.

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