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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    i also wanted plax, he is doing verryyy good now, i still cant get over the spiked ball lol!!
    get porter!!!!!!!!!!!!nothing to looooseeee!!!!!!

    Thanks josdin00

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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    "tb04512" wrote:
    whose to say porter cant be like stallworth, you see hoe well stallworth did once he got out of the situation he had in neworleans for the past years?? the games he's played he's done
    amazing, i say trade a 3rd round for porter y not what we have to loose?? draft class this year isnt that deep anyway.. maybe he could be like stallworth
    Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't.
    Stallworth has McNabb throwing him the ball.
    Brad is no McNabb.
    As far as what do we have to lose?
    How about a 3rd rounder for a player who will likely have no impact this season.
    Porter's lack of success has nothing to do with his system, and if it did, it wouldn't be much different here.
    Plax was a FA, Porter is not.


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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    Screw Porter and Moss.
    There will be plenty of time in the offseason to discuss these two losers.

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    Raiders | Porter will not be traded
    Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:13:26 -0700

    ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders WR Jerry Porter will not be traded during the season.

    Raiders | Moss will not be traded
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    ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders WR Randy Moss will not be traded during the season.

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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    "Prophet" wrote:
    Screw Porter and Moss.
    There will be plenty of time in the offseason to discuss these two losers.

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    Raiders | Porter will not be traded
    Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:13:26 -0700

    ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders WR Jerry Porter will not be traded during the season.

    Raiders | Moss will not be traded
    Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:15:17 -0700

    ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders WR Randy Moss will not be traded during the season.
    well, that sucks that moss is stuck on that crappy team.
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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    Why wouldnt you want porter for a 3rd round pick. We are in need for a playmaking reciever to stretch the field, williamson is not getting it done he has way to many drops.

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    Re: Adam Schefter on Porter

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    Porter is garbage, and not worth a second rounder, even without the attitude.
    Just wondering what are you going by when you say Porter is garbage?

    Everyone is blaming him for what's going on in Oakland.
    The last time I looked the entire team is unhappy.
    It makes me wonder whther or not it is Porter or is it the coaching staff and front office?

    Here are the guys stats.
    Not that stats mean a great deal a lot of times but considering the guy has only really played 3 years and has 24 TDs and plenty of catches over 20 yards, I'd say he was pretty good.

    Year Team








    G

    GS

    Rec

    Yds

    Avg

    Lg

    TD

    20+

    40+

    1st
    2000 Oakland Raiders 12


    0



    1



    6


    6.0


    6


    0



    0



    0



    0
    2001 Oakland Raiders 15


    1


    19

    220

    11.6

    21


    0



    1



    0


    14
    2002 Oakland Raiders 16

    14


    51

    688

    13.5


    36

    9


    12



    0


    36


    2003 Oakland Raiders 10


    1


    28

    361

    12.9


    35

    1



    5



    0


    21
    2004 Oakland Raiders 16

    16


    64


    998

    15.6


    52

    9


    17



    5


    47
    2005 Oakland Raiders 16

    14


    76


    942

    12.4

    49


    5


    14



    2


    45
    2006 Oakland Raiders 0


    0



    0



    0


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    0


    0



    0



    0



    0
    TOTAL











    85

    46

    239

    3215

    13.5

    52

    24


    49



    7

    163

    Furthermore tell me what any of the Viking WRs on the team now has done that is better than Porter.
    If you want to say someone is garbage tell us why you think so.
    I have no problem debating things just give reasons.
    Anyone can make a random statement.
    Here is why he sucks:

    He isn't that great a route runner and his hands are average at best.
    He is inconsistent as hell, putting up big games then disappearing for several others.
    In going on 7 seasons he has produced no 1000 yards seasons, has never caught more than 76 passes, he has NEVER proved to be a reliable #1 WR, he hasn't played at all this year etc..
    I would say based on talent alone (and not even attitude and work ethic, which is a big downside) Troy Williamson is a better player.
    Most importantly, he isn't worth draft pics above second day picks, not with the value they have.
    Okay what are you going by when you say he has average hands at best?
    In going on 7 seasons he has only played full time in 3 and he has done quite a good job when he does play.
    How can you say he hasn't proven to be a #1 WR?
    His talent is better than any of the current WR for the Vikings.
    Please disprove that.
    You think TWill is better at this point?
    Let's talk about his "average hands at best".
    What do you have to go by when you say he doesn't run routes well?
    Is this a fact or an opinion?
    What's wrong with his talent?
    I would take him over an unproven draft pick anyday of the year.
    The only things you mentioned that is fact is he doesn't have any 1000 yards seasons and he hasn't played at all this season.
    However he has 2 years of 900+ yards and the reason why he's not playing is due to a coach trying to strongarm his people.
    Why don't you look at real stats such as: how many catches over 20 yards he has.
    How many catches over 40 yards he has.
    How many of his catches were fisrt downs.
    You know, the things that make differences in a football game.
    Culpepper had over 4700 yards passing in 2004.
    How many games did that win?
    What I'm asking you to do is give facts.
    Most of your reasonings don't even make sense.
    How can you say TWill is better at this point in his career?
    What has he done to signify that?
    IS - If you are going to put stats in tell the whole story.
    The stats I have says he has many more 20 yard and 40 yard catches than what you put up there.
    I obtained the stats from NFL.com.
    How many games have you watched him play to say he has average hands at best and he's a poor route runner?
    I've watched him several times myself and I have never seen him drop any passes.
    That and if you are telling me you watch him run routes every down I'm going to call you a liar.
    I don't think the camera is fixated on him to show his routes.
    I will hoever admit when I watch the NFL Network and other shows I have never seen anyone rip him for not running a route correctly or poorly.
    What I am trying to say is you have your opinions and that's fine but there is nothing to back it up at all.
    You show me one expert or one analysis that says what you are saying.

    I am not saying playing full time in 3 seasons out of 7 is good.
    I don't know why he didn't play every game.
    Maybe it was because of injury.
    I honestly can't tell you.
    I was making the point to show his productivity with the time he has played.
    As far as being a #1 WR, I would say he's better than anyone on this team right now.

    As far as my statistical analyzation on Culpepper I was eluding to STATS don't mean everything.
    You put in your last statement he never had 1000 yard receiving in a year.
    I was making the point he has had 2 over 900 yards out of the 3 years he has played full time.
    The last I checked that's not bad.


    How can say TWill is at the same level as Porter is at this point?
    IMO that doesn't even make sense.
    TWill is faster.
    Speed doesn't catch balls.
    TWill will improve.
    Porter doesn't need improving.
    I can give you the better attitude for TWill but as far as work ethic I cannot prove or disprove that.
    As faras this season goes we already know he is being strong-armed by his coach.
    No one is able to tell me who's fault it is yet.
    Until I see otherwise I'm blaming the coaching staff because they are mistreating him.
    TWill does know our offense better but if you look at my entire post I said he would be worth it later in the year when it comes to playoff time.
    As far as additional draft picks I would say Porter is worth a 3rd rounder (an unproven rookie that has never taken a NFL snap).
    Proven WRs over an unproven draft pick, you make the choice.

    So to answer your question, No, your fake stats and opinions do not work for me.

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