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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainviking View Post
    2014 NFL Draft Trade Value Chart

    Obviously, these values are not set in stone, but do still provide a guideline for what to expect.

    The Giants were terrible last year because their OL was terrible and injured. They may be willing to make that move for Mathews or Robinson, but moving from 12 to 8 is only a difference of 200 points, roughly, their 3rd round pick. Definitely NOT a 2nd and 3rd.

    If you want to land a 2nd, you need to find a trade partner around 350 to 550 points behind us...the Jets at 18 are 500 points back, that would be one 2nd round pick.

    What do you guys think of this scenario? Is this TOO far back? I'm saying the 49ers have more picks than needs, and could really use a playmaker on offense to push them over the top. They have tried to add a weapon many times and failed. IF Watkins is there, they might be tempted to make the big move, from their #30 all the way to #8 to get in front of BUF and DET who are both thought to be looking WR. That is nearly 800 points, or enough to ask for both of their 2nds and one of their 3rds, giving us 3 picks in the 2nd AND 3rd rounds!!!
    I like it, though at 30, we will be doing a bit more betting/hoping than if we traded to someone in the early 20's.
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    Breaking down Oregon State wide receiver Brandin Cooks - NFL Videos

    The one thing I think they do NOT say about this kid is WHEN a lot of those yards and TDs came. I watch 2 weeks in a row where OSU was in an away game, they dominated but could not put the home team away, and late in the fourth quarter, the home team came all the way back.

    We are all football fans here, and we all know what the momentum would be like in that situation!! The stadium exploded, the home team was HYPED, and OSU players looked dejected. Then Mannion (the OSU QB) and Cooks went to work, and drove the ball down the home team's throat. It was a little inspiring; I could not believe how cool and precise this kid was; he put the team on his back and said, "We are NOT going to lose!!"

    I REALLY want to see him in purple, and if we trade back to the early 20's, we could get him AND a 2nd round pick at the minimum.
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    I see pick 8 as too valuable. Gotta go and get yourself the best defensive guy out there. We have way too many holes on our defense to use a first on another wr. I would be thrilled with Mack, or Moseley.

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    Pick 8 is too valuable too trade down. Gotta go and get best defensive guy out there. Would be thrilled with Mack, or Moseley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rage4Order View Post
    Pick 8 is too valuable too trade down. Gotta go and get best defensive guy out there. Would be thrilled with Mack, or Moseley.
    If the only shot we had at a good defensive player was at #8, I would agree. But I instead agree with a lot of the analysts out there who feel this is the deepest draft we've had in over a decade. Zimmer was picked up for his defensive eyes; he will take care of us in the later rounds... or he will be gone.

    Our #8 and #40 could net us up to 3 extra picks in the second and third rounds; THAT might be a lot more valuable in the scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    If the only shot we had at a good defensive player was at #8, I would agree. But I instead agree with a lot of the analysts out there who feel this is the deepest draft we've had in over a decade. Zimmer was picked up for his defensive eyes; he will take care of us in the later rounds... or he will be gone.

    Our #8 and #40 could net us up to 3 extra picks in the second and third rounds; THAT might be a lot more valuable in the scheme of things.

    Certainly true. If we can turn our 5 picks in the first 104 into 7 or 8 picks in the first 104 then we have a real chance to really overhaul this roster with all the defensive depth in this draft.

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    8th position will give us a great player

    No matter if tha stay at 8 or trade down they need to draft a defense player and draft Jimmy Garoppolo in tha 2nd round

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