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    49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Ok, I think this is the time to bring this up. This has been bothering me since November 2007. I sometimes feel that I am the only one who saw this, too.

    I am talking about the 49er game:

    - Up to that point: AP was ripping apart defenses, and D-coordinators had no answers to it.

    - The SF game changed everything: the Niners stacked the "box", forcing us to pass, and we couldn't. There were no lanes to run in, and AP was completely stuffed.

    Every team we played after that watched what the Niners did to us that game and copied it. And the thing that bothers me is that Chilly and his coaches had - apparently - no answer for it.

    My major concern going into 2008: this will continue. We will see 8 and even 9 defenders in the box, with no lanes for AP, and single coverage on our WRs, and we won't move the chains.

    Am I the only one who sees this ? Please wake me up and tell me this was all a nightmare.

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    I am sorry buddy ... I am beginning to think there is nothing that will wake you up.
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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Thats why we got bernard berrian, so that when they do stack the box then we get
    a single safety or single coverage and we take them apart in the passing game.then they take the men out of the box and we can run again,problem solved

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Chester Taylor still ripped off a big run and ended up w/ 101 yards.
    TJack actually had one of the best games of the season against SF.
    He was on pace to have his best game ever until the coaches shut it down and played clock control for the entire second half.


    AD will get his this season...don't be such a negative-nancy.
    Rock out with your cock out!!!

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Man, I don't recall the game going that way. I do recall the run by Chester now, though. But I think it was early in the game, no ? I was watching it in a sports bar and there were like 10 Vikings fans (I don't live in MN), and I recall us cheering maybe twice in that game.

    I will have to look up the numbers in that game (should have already done that before my post, I admit that).

    But I still maintain that the box got stacked against us in every game after that. BTW, the box was stacked and the linebackers were keying on AP, so I guess to me, that doesn't negate my point that they took AP out of that game if Chester broke one off. And after that,
    the Bears, Redskins, etc. all stacked the box with everyone keying on AP, and mostly took him out of those games.

    I am pretty sure that won't continue, but it seemed to me that Childress didn't find an answer to that yet. I am not sure what the answer is, but obviously, it has something to do with the QB throwing when they put 8 and 9 defenders in the box.

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Man, I don't recall the game going that way. I do recall the run by Chester now, though. But I think it was early in the game, no ? I was watching it in a sports bar and there were like 10 Vikings fans (I don't live in MN), and I recall us cheering maybe twice in that game.

    I will have to look up the numbers in that game (should have already done that before my post, I admit that).

    But I still maintain that the box got stacked against us in every game after that. BTW, the box was stacked and the linebackers were keying on AP, so I guess to me, that doesn't negate my point that they took AP out of that game if Chester broke one off. And after that,
    the Bears, Redskins, etc. all stacked the box with everyone keying on AP, and mostly took him out of those games.

    I am pretty sure that won't continue, but it seemed to me that Childress didn't find an answer to that yet. I am not sure what the answer is, but obviously, it has something to do with the QB throwing when they put 8 and 9 defenders in the box.

    Let them stack the box again this year. They will soon learn that Sidney, Wade, and Berrian can defeat single coverage. This year expect more audibles, and a expanded play-book for Tarvaris, who now in his third year will be able to open things up some more audible wise. Shiancoe, and Tapeh will also have bigger roles and be more a threat this year. So I say stack the box, and we will go over the top till you stop, and then we will maul you with our rushing attack.

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Just looked the stats up:

    - Peterson had only 3 yards rushing on 14 carries.
    - Chester had 101 yards on 8 carries, but that includes the 85 yard run.
    - Tarvaris was 16/25 for like 165 yards and a TD pass with no INTs.

    We won because the Niners turned the ball over 5 times...

    To me, what jumps out is the 3 yards for AP (obviously). For a QB to throw that yardage vs. a stacked box all day is very, very mediocre, too. Chester had a good day, but based on one run.

    Obviously, I hope that this does not continue, and I trust that Chilly has a better answer for this than to try to run AP off tackle 20 times in a row. I would expect more screen passes to AP and some slants to Wade, etc. to get us out of this. But my main point is that D-Coordinators around the NFL have found a way to slow AP down, and we need to counter that.

    Football is about adjustments...
    And it seems to me, that trend continued in the final games.

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    Okay StillPurple you do bring up some good points. There is no doubt what the Niners did in that game was exceptional what they did to stop AD. And there are many questions about our Offense with an unproven QB. But we have picked up key free agents like BB and Jarred Allen to help with our weaker parts of the team. I know Allen wont help your offensive downfall point but Berrian will help.
    As far as Im concerned Im with you. I dont think your being "negative Nancy",
    I think your being a highly critical fan and think your point is valid.....

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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    I think that was the year when the Patriots exposed the weakness and eveyone followed....or was that in '06?
    The defense was playing tough and the Patriots came into town and tore them up and everyone followed their lead in the subsequent games.
    That's no secret though, that has gone on since the game's infancy.
    Some team plays tough against another team and everyone copies them.
    I wonder why DE was such a popular position this year?
    Do you think the Patriots will be 16-0 again when every team will follow the Jints lead and try to pummell Brady on every down?
    It's a copycat league, always has been.
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    Re: 49er Game 07 was the turning point...

    "Prophet" wrote:
    I think that was the year when the Patriots exposed the weakness and eveyone followed....or was that in '06?
    The defense was playing tough and the Patriots came into town and tore them up and everyone followed their lead in the subsequent games.
    That's no secret though, that has gone on since the game's infancy.
    Some team plays tough against another team and everyone copies them.
    I wonder why DE was such a popular position this year?
    Do you think the Patriots will be 16-0 again when every team will follow the Jints lead and try to pummell Brady on every down?
    It's a copycat league, always has been.
    I agree. It all started wit the 06 Patriots game.

    And apparently they emailed our offensive signals to every team we faced except Seattle, San Diego,Chicago and the Giants.

    Bastards.

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