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    2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    Judging from past trends, my guess is that the big two, Gruden and Cowher, are going to go to bigger market, bigger paycheck, bigger media teams. Just a guess.

    My main question is Offense! I sense that the KAO is still kicking our own arse...I feel like we need an upgrade to our blocking scheme at the least, and probably some cleaner routes etc too.

    And, IMHO, we need to stick with the running the ball mentality. Its our strength, it helps your OL get in their groove, and sets up your QB for success downfield by attracting attention up front. Bradford doesn't have much at WR, but his running game and OL (2 early picks at OT and paying big bucks to Jason Smith!) are giving him a shot.

    I'm thinking, that Frazier may still be our best bet. I like the quiet confidence, and although we are injury riddled out of contention (we are down to 3rd QB, 4th&5th CBs, backup RB and missing the entire center of our OL), our guys are coming in fighting (for at least the 1st quarter) even though they've nothing left to fight for.

    This team showed last year that there is considerable talent and they can compete with anyone in the league when healthy. Despite his gameday failings, for the most part, Childress built a pretty darn good team of mostly high-character guys. A new regime would mean more rebuilding, but Frazier would help us keep this core together.

    So, my thoughts lead to who could be our version of Chicago's Martz and get more production out of the talent we have on Offense while continuing improving our existing Defense.

    And, what do you guys think about hiring Singletary as Defensive Coordinator? Perhaps? His passion could be balanced nicely with Frazier's quiet confidence!? You know, they played together on that 85 SuperBowl Bears team! B) :laugh: :woohoo:


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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    Good stuff my friend.

    Gonna be alot of "Retread" options out there if you look at the HC's (and associated staffs) that will be given the boot this year.

    If I hired them, here is how I would use them.

    Jack Del Rio (D-Coord)
    Wade Phillips (D-Coord)
    John Fox (Head Coach)
    Marvin Lewis (D-Coord)
    Josh McDaniels (O-Coord)
    Mike Singeltary (D-Coord)
    Norv Turner (O-Coord)
    Tom Coughlin (Head Coach)
    Jeff Fisher (Head Coach)
    Gary Kubiak (Head Coach)
    Eric Mangini (Head Coach)

    Based on who might/will be available out of that mess, I would go with John Fox or Tom Coughlin as the next Head Coach (Fisher won't be available) and I'd tap Josh McDaniels as the O-coord and Marv Lewis as the D-coord.

    One caveat....If Mangini is let loose, I am assuming that Rob Ryan would then become available and I would tap him as D-coord or even HC.
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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    Josh McDickneels did get some impressive numbers out of his offense, but his unwarranted arrogance drove talent away on all levels. The reason his team started 6-0 was because Nolan fixed the perennial problematic Denver defense. While I think Josh could get more out of our offense, I feel he would eventually butt heads with too many people and could become a cancerous distraction.

    Kubiak has connections in Denver, Elway is supposedly thinking about becoming more involved, possibly as owner/manager. Kubiak was his backup and vet presence while he developed...pretty sure he'll have a job here in CO if he's let go. SD has announced that Turner is staying.

    I'm starting to think we need to look at college guys, since any offensive genius already in the NFL will most likely be looking for a step up, ie Head Coach title. Perhaps, one of these guys would consider Offensive Coordinator of the MN Vikings a step up...

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2010-05-18/sn10-best-offensive-coordinators-college-football

    I don't watch a ton of college ball, but Boise seems to run some pretty interesting plays. I'm not sure what to think of Cam Newton yet, but Gus Malzahn of Auburn seems to have a pretty successful history of developing QBs...?

    Here's a ranking of the NFL's offensive guys...tho, they have Clueless ranked way too high, its still a list of potential candidates...?

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/01/11/ranking-the-offensive-coordinators
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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by "mountainviking" #1086168
    Josh McDickneels did get some impressive numbers out of his offense, but his unwarranted arrogance drove talent away on all levels. The reason his team started 6-0 was because Nolan fixed the perennial problematic Denver defense. While I think Josh could get more out of our offense, I feel he would eventually butt heads with too many people and could become a cancerous distraction.
    Some of the talking heads were saying that most teams are going to look to the collegiate ranks instead of bringing in all the old guys.

    Mostly they rationalized that along the lines of how well some of the first time HC's have done of late.

    Anyway, it made sense, especially when they started talking about the 49rs and thier desire to land coach Harbaugh. Seems he is very receptive to thier advances as well.

    Kubiak has connections in Denver, Elway is supposedly thinking about becoming more involved, possibly as owner/manager. Kubiak was his backup and vet presence while he developed...pretty sure he'll have a job here in CO if he's let go. SD has announced that Turner is staying.
    Nice angle on Kubiak. I never thought of that one. You might be tracking with that one.

    I'm starting to think we need to look at college guys, since any offensive genius already in the NFL will most likely be looking for a step up, ie Head Coach title. Perhaps, one of these guys would consider Offensive Coordinator of the MN Vikings a step up...

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2010-05-18/sn10-best-offensive-coordinators-college-football

    I don't watch a ton of college ball, but Boise seems to run some pretty interesting plays. I'm not sure what to think of Cam Newton yet, but Gus Malzahn of Auburn seems to have a pretty successful history of developing QBs...?
    I guess Boise State is kindof a fun system to watch but do you really think it would cutover to the pro ranks? I guess for me, they aren't doing anything new, just alot of gimmick stuff everyone doesn't do.

    Chow is a interesting option that I've kindof forgotten about. Interesting.

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    I want them to tap Kevin Greene to be our next DC. after seeing what he has done with the packers LB unit I would love to see him have our whole defense playing at that level.

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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    The defense seemed to respond to Fred Pagac and Frazier knows him...kinda thinking he sticks around. Could be interesting to see where Singletary ends up, but, I think the 9ers still owe him some bucks too...maybe he takes a year off...?

    Tom Cable was OL before HC right? The Raiders offense was 10th overall, only 23 passing, but 2nd in rushing yds/game and 2nd in yds/rush!! I think he might be a fit as a no-nonsense, get back to work type of guy. We stick with a physical presence on offense and can upgrade not just OL depth this offseason, but the scheme as well. They've got a hell of a 1-2 RB combo, but ours still compare pretty favorably: Gerhardt may not quite be Bush yet, but, IMO, AP > DM. Sure, his passing game struggled, but look at their top WRs and QB options. A healthy Rice, Harvin, Berrian looks a hell of a lot better than the youngsters: Murphy, DHB, Ford. DoH! 6th in sacks allowed there tho!

    IDK...thinking outside the box...? How about Atlanta's Quarterbacks Coach!? He seems to have done a great job with Ryan, and lord knows, QB needs some coaching up on our team going forward!!!!?! And, I like their balance on offense: pounding running sets up the pass which can set up the run later in games.

    Bill Musgrave

    Assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach; born November 11, 1967, Grand Junction, Colo. Quarterback Oregon 1987-1990. Pro quarterback San Francisco 49ers 1991-94, Denver Broncos 1995-96. College coach: Virginia 2001-02. Pro coach: Oakland Raiders 1997, Philadelphia Eagles 1998, Carolina Panthers 1999-2000, Jacksonville Jaguars 2003-04, Washington Redskins 2005, joined Falcons in 2006.
    Um, D'oh! Asst. Head Coach already!! OK, so who else in a similar position?

    BAL w/ Flacco
    TB w/ Freeman
    NYG w Eli?
    NYJ w/ Dirty??

    perhaps, some more research is required...
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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    Jim Zorn

    Quarterbacks; born May 10, 1953, Whittier, Calif. Quarterback Cal Poly Pomona 1972-75. Pro quarterback Seattle Seahawks 1976-84, Green Bay Packers 1985, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (CFL) 1986, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1987. College coach: Boise State 1988-91, Utah State 1992-94, Minnesota 1995-96. Pro coach: Seattle Seahawks 1997-98, Detroit Lions 1999-2000, Seattle Seahawks 2001-07, Washington Redskins (head coach) 2008-09, joined Ravens in 2010.
    Not too sure how much of a chance he had in WAS in that dysfunctional family. He's got QB experience and local roots. Perhaps?

    Matt Cavanaugh

    Quarterbacks; born October 27, 1956, Youngstown, Ohio. Quarterback Pittsburgh 1974-77. Pro quarterback New England Patriots 1978- 1982, San Francisco 49ers 1983-85, Philadelphia Eagles 1986-89, New York Giants 1990-91. College coach: Pittsburgh 1991-93, 2005-08. Pro coach: Arizona Cardinals 1994-95, San Francisco 49ers 1996, Chicago Bears 1997-98, Baltimore Ravens 1999-2004, joined Jets in 2009.
    Maybe, another guy with experience. But, how about this brainstorm!?!??

    Now, Here is an idea I like!!

    Tom Clements

    Quarterbacks; born June 18, 1953, McKees Rocks, Pa. Quarterback Notre Dame 1972-74. Pro quarterback Ottawa Rough Riders (CFL) 1975-78, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (CFL) 1979, 1981-82, Kansas City Chiefs 1980, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (CFL) 1983-87. College coach: Notre Dame 1992-95. Pro coach: New Orleans Saints 1997-99, Kansas City Chiefs 2000, Pittsburgh Steelers 2001-03, Buffalo Bills 2004-05, joined Packers in 2006.
    He's been with the Packers since 2006, so, there with Rodgers and the Favre for years. Flynn seems to be developing on the bench too. And, he knows that offense and Rodgers inside-out...which could be a huge advantage for our defense!!!?
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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    I would love to see us get someone like McDaniels to run the offense.

    Maybe even Jim Zorn as mentioned here.

    I think that we need to be more worried on offense than defense because our head coach will be more focused on the defense since it is his scheme. I am kind of happy with the quality at the top of the defense right now.

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    Re: 2011 Vikings Coaching Staff: Ideas Options & Needs

    I wouldn't mind seeing Singletary come in as DC. As for OC I think Norv Turner would be nice but no telling if he would be available. McDaniels, maybe? Not sure if he would be welcomed. Seemed to piss too many people off too early IMO. Jim Zorn may be a good fit for the players the Vikings have. I think he and Leslie would bond pretty quickly.

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    DC Singletary. (I'd actually love to get Ron Rivera, but he's pretty tied up in SD)
    OC Mooch (Missed the ball on that one, bet he would have come when Favre was playing)

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