Thread: 2011 Draft/FA Wishlist
12-14-2010, 06:20 PM #21
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "mountainviking" #1083631
Problem is, if he is gonna put a package on the field like we saw last night, I'm not sure I wouldn't mind seeing a true GM and a HC picked by him come in and start over rather than watching all this talent flounder cause they aren't getting coached.
Again, most on here are all over TJ for last nights debacle and they have a good case for it. But the HC really should be getting lit up as well. That team was not ready and the coaches sure didn't do anthing to over come that last night.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-14-2010, 06:29 PM #22
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "tarkenton10" #1083633
If none of them are available the only other option is to take a DT or OT with the first pick and then take a Ponder (66-percent completion rate) or Foles(completing 78.6 percent of his passes with an 8.9 YPA) with your second.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-14-2010, 06:33 PM #23
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1083654
12-14-2010, 06:37 PM #24
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "PurplePeopleEaters" #1083648
Only issue I have with that fine post was your path to solve the DL issues. I think we are good at DE. Griff has shown some promise so he could probably step in next year for Edwards (who is gonna leave as he was the maddest over that tender) but we still have serious issues at DT.
K-dubb hasn't been himself since testing issue. Phat Pat can only get you a rep or two then has to come out. JK has flashed but he isn't the answer. Fred Evans.....LOL, can't beleive a couple on here actually thought he was a good signing.
Anyways, if you wait until the 4th, just like you see with QB's, there isn't anything left that can give you instant reps.
I really think you need to get rid of everyone but Guion and K-dubb, get two vets (maybe one of them is JK) and draft a young stud that can play the 0 technique in this scheme.
Heck, banish the thought, but maybe you say "Eff you Kdubb, we are going into a 3-4 with or without you", and work the rebuild that way. Then you would only need K-dubb, Guion, Griff and your rookie 0 technique and load up on 3-4 LB'rs.
I think you have a good start there with EJ, Erin, Jasper and Chad. Just add a vet in there and you are good.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-14-2010, 06:39 PM #25
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "Zeus" #1083640
As for Kolb, I'm not sure on that cat yet. Even though I was ready to mortgage the bank on a cat like DA, I think that taught me a lesson. They are getting rid of him for a reason if they elect to do so.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-14-2010, 06:46 PM #26
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1083658
Heck, I'd even throw 2007 in there as well and say he was better than almost all of them to.
2007 1 1 1 1 JaMarcus Russell Raiders Louisiana State
2 1 22 22 Brady Quinn Browns Notre Dame
3 2 4 36 Kevin Kolb Eagles Houston
4 2 8 40 John Beck Dolphins Brigham Young
5 2 11 43 Drew Stanton Lions Michigan State
6 3 29 92 Trent Edwards Bills Stanford
7 4 4 103 Isaiah Stanback Cowboys Washington
8 5 14 151 Jeff Rowe Bengals Nevada
9 5 37 174 Troy Smith Ravens Ohio State
10 6 31 205 Jordan Palmer Redskins Texas-El Paso
11 7 7 217 Tyler Thigpen Vikings Coastal Carolina
2006 1 1 3 3 Vince Young Titans Texas
2 1 10 10 Matt Leinart Cardinals USC
3 1 11 11 Jay Cutler Broncos Vanderbilt
4 2 17 49 Kellen Clemens Jets Oregon
5 2 32 64 Tarvaris Jackson Vikings Alabama State
6 3 17 81 Charlie Whitehurst Chargers Clemson
7 3 21 85 Brodie Croyle Chiefs Alabama
8 5 15 148 Ingle Martin Packers Furman
9 5 32 164 Omar Jacobs Steelers Bowling Green
10 6 24 193 Reggie McNeal Bengals Texas A&M
11 6 25 194 Bruce Gradkowski Buccaneers Toledo
12 7 15 223 D.J. Shockley Falcons GeorgiaMany many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
12-14-2010, 06:46 PM #27
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1083661
We talk about this every offseason, and every offseason it's the same thing.
It would not work for us, we'd need to completely revamp our front 7.
First of all, our Ends. JA isn't even close to a 3-4 DE. What then? Move him to WOLB? Packers tried that with their pass rusher, it didn't work out so well. Although JA might be able to work as a pass rushing OLB, but you never know. Then we have what? Chad at SLB? ILB? EJ would have to be ILB, probably SILB. Who's WILB? Brinkley?
Now, DE's. The only guy we have who fills a 3-4 DE frame is Kevin Williams. If we can get him to play as a DE, great. But I believe we did that before whe he was younger, and he said he hated it. What about NT? Pat's coming back next year, but I don't think he can be our every down answer. We'll need a NT. Perhaps drafting a guy last year would have been the way to go, IF we were planning on going to 3-4. Still the problem of LDE. Griffen is 273. Not big enough. Robison is smaller even. For a 3-4 LDE, we need a big, strong guy who can hold his ground against a doubleteam. Maybe this is where KW comes in. We still need a RDE though.
Then there's the issue of LB depth. We'd need to bring Leber back, he wants to come back. We'd then have to draft or aquire another 3 or 4 LB's. Assuming Erin will be back, there's Farwell and Onatolu, but neither really play Linebacker, they're special teams guys.
I just really don't think its realistic.
The Packers pulled it off, as they had the guys they needed on roster. THey had the big DL they needed, they had the LB's. Two years and they turned it into a decent unit. not outstanding, but decent. We just don't have the guys. And I don't think EJ would necessarily make a good 3-4 DE.
12-14-2010, 06:49 PM #28
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1083664
How do we know that if we got Charlie Whitehurst, Brodie Croyle or Bruce Gradkowski, they wouldn't do the exact same or better than TJ has done? We don't.
You can claim they don't play for a reason. That's true, because their coach is smart enough to not reach for a player then insist on playing him because he's his little project.
12-14-2010, 06:49 PM #29
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1083662
Was it because they have Vick, and Schaub became expendable?
Funny, I see some similarities.
12-14-2010, 06:50 PM #30
Re: 2011 Draft/FA WishlistOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1083665
Phat Pat, gone.
Evans. Crap, gone
JK. Just above crap, could go.
K-dubb. Pretty much ineffective all year.
Greenway. Might stay but could leave just as easily.
EJ. Same as Chad.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
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