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    2 plays and we are 3-0

    The Longwell Kick in OT.

    The Shianco catch today.

    Childress had the right offensive game plan.
    The Players are not executing!
    I REPEAT, THE PLAYERS ARE NOT EXECUTING.
    Dropped balls, poor pass blocking, poor QB throws.
    Childress is not the problem...the players are the problem.
    We have to come to the realization that Mckinnie and Birk are just average.
    Cook is lost and we are a mess at right guard.
    Childress inheriated a shell of a "once was" football team.
    That's not his fault.
    This offense works if the players make it work...and right now, they are not executing.
    Childress has good coaches around him, had an excellent draft, and knows what he is doing.
    Childress didn't trade away Moss nor did he force Culpepper out of here.
    Some things are the way they are and right now the vikings are a rebuilding average football team who can't catch a break.

    One more thing...I am not from Minnesota so I am only saying this from an observational standpoint.
    I am finally beginning to understand why so many people say Minnesota fans are horrible baby little bandwagon fan b*tches and why we are hated so much.
    I always tried to go out of my way to disagree with people across the country and internet about Viking fans.
    But now I can finally see it.
    As an example, we actually have people on Viking message boards (including this one) wanting to fire Childress or talk about what QB to take this upcoming draft.
    It's like Viking fans build their self-esteem through a football team.
    What is wrong with our fanbase?
    It's not the only fanbase to deal with chokes and years of playoff futility...so you can't cop out with that...and I've been through all of the Vikings ordeals.

    Fire Childress?
    GROW THE F*CK UP!



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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    Wow you seem pretty angry.
    I see where you're coming from but no need to get so defensive.
    I agree with you however on the point that the players need to execute better.
    We lost against the lions because of a matter of inches with the kick.
    And now we lost to the Chiefs because of a poor call by the refs on the shianco play and an absolutely horrible throw by Holcomb to Ferguson.
    We COULD easily be 3 and 0 right now, but we're not, and that's reality.
    We need to suck it up and come back next week at home against the packers.
    They just beat the Chargers so if we could beat them that would be a HUGE confidence booster for the players and maybe, just maybe, that could be the spark we need to get over this hump.

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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    I thought about this today and we would be the biggest fraud 3-0 team ever.
    The reason people talk about firing Childress and getting a good QB is out of love of the team.
    I don't know how the hell that makes people bandwagon or even whiny fans.
    We would be bandwagon fans if we didn't show up or care about this team during this miserable stretch.
    The fact that so many people still show up and try to support this crap proves the opposite to be true.
    It has nothing to do with being a bandwagon fan to admit that this is by far the worst offense in Vikings history.
    This trend started when Childress took over.
    Disagree with people all you want, but get off your soapbox.
    Accepting futility does not make you a better fan or a bigger person than the rest of us.

    Reality is we are 1-2 in the easiest stretch of our schedule.
    Keep bringing up the
    "ifs" if it makes you feel better.
    The rest of us will demand results from the team we support in many ways including financially.

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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    "enlvikeman" wrote:
    The Longwell Kick in OT.

    The Shianco catch today.

    Childress had the right offensive game plan.
    The Players are not executing!
    I REPEAT, THE PLAYERS ARE NOT EXECUTING.
    Dropped balls, poor pass blocking, poor QB throws.
    Childress is not the problem...the players are the problem.
    We have to come to the realization that Mckinnie and Birk are just average.
    Cook is lost and we are a mess at right guard.
    Childress inheriated a shell of a "once was" football team.
    That's not his fault.
    This offense works if the players make it work...and right now, they are not executing.
    Childress has good coaches around him, had an excellent draft, and knows what he is doing.
    Childress didn't trade away Moss nor did he force Culpepper out of here.
    Some things are the way they are and right now the vikings are a rebuilding average football team who can't catch a break.

    One more thing...I am not from Minnesota so I am only saying this from an observational standpoint.
    I am finally beginning to understand why so many people say Minnesota fans are horrible baby little bandwagon fan b*tches and why we are hated so much.
    I always tried to go out of my way to disagree with people across the country and internet about Viking fans.
    But now I can finally see it.
    As an example, we actually have people on Viking message boards (including this one) wanting to fire Childress or talk about what QB to take this upcoming draft.
    It's like Viking fans build their self-esteem through a football team.
    What is wrong with our fanbase?
    It's not the only fanbase to deal with chokes and years of playoff futility...so you can't cop out with that...and I've been through all of the Vikings ordeals.

    Fire Childress?
    GROW THE F*CK UP!
    Pun intended?
    Or not?

    But you are correct...the players aren't executing...specifically in the passing game.
    But that could be somewhat Childress's fault...specifically for putting all of his faith in TJack.
    Not that TJack can't someday be the answer at QB...but he probably isn't right now...regardless of what we had all hoped.
    Maybe Holcomb is the answer short term...as a manager who doesn't make that many mistakes...but the WRs are gonna have to step it up a notch or we are gonna be a pretty one-dimensional offense.
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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    The fact is we should never been in the position to be only 1 play from winning or losing, and at the very least when the situation presents itself you should be able to execute.


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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    Okay. We were 2 plays away from being 3-0. But then you have to go back into the past and look at games we won and say the same thing.

    Fact is, no matter how many plays we are away from 3-0, we are in fact, 1-2.

    The worse part about it is, if we had been playing anybody other than the Falcons, Lions, and Chiefs, we would be 0-3 and 50 plays away from 3-0.

    Literally every team in the league has 4-5 games every year, "If for one more play, we would have won".
    "There is good and there is evil. And evil must be punished. Even in the face of Armageddon I will not compromise."

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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0



    "enlvikeman]<br" wrote:
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    In the case of the first, we never should have needed it.
    Had our offense been able to accomplish anything, it wouldn't have mattered.
    In the case of the second, we were never able to recover from it.
    We got robbed, settled for 3, and never went back.

    Both cases highlight not the fact that the Vikings have caught some bad breaks, but rather that the Vikings are unable to generate points.

    "enlvikeman]Childress" wrote:
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    Childress had the right offensive game plan?
    When?
    Aside from the opening drive - where we actually looked like an NFL team - our drives were pretty lackluster.
    In fact, anytime you see a drive chart that reads, "TD, punt, punt, FG, fumble, downs", you start to think that it could go either way....until the second half which went, "punt, punt, punt, punt, downs".
    Right offensive game plan?
    Sorry....don't see it.

    McKinnie:
    He's been average his entire career.
    This is not news.
    He gets beat regularly by speed guys.
    Our kazillion dollar left side hasn't produced much for us.
    Our $2.00 right side even less.
    And whose fault is that?
    Who signed these guys?
    Who extended contracts, made million dollar deals, and didn't go after any replacements?
    If Childress wants to make a statement, BENCH McKINNIE for a series or two!!!!
    But, no, we'll just let it slide and hope Bryant gets better......like the offense, the passing "D", Jackson, the receivers, etc, etc, etc...

    Execution:
    Yes, execution is poor.
    But, the question is, is that a result of poor play, poor coaching, or poor planning?
    If it's poor play, then why weren't steps taken in the off season to address this?
    Why are we sitting on this huge pile of cap space?
    If it's poor coaching, then the blame - ultimately - lies with Childress...ditto the planning.

    In the end, this is the 19th game of the Childress Offensive scheme.
    In this system touchdowns are scarce and play calling is hyper-conservative...often resulting in painful losses.
    Couple this with a Defense that is hyped, but can't stop the pass, and I'd say that 2 drafts, 2 free agencys, and 19 games into the Childress System, we probably have a pretty good grasp of what's in store....and many of us don't like it.

    By the way, it's easy to claim that the system would work if the players were better.
    A great system doesn't require great players, it makes the players better.
    By that measuring stick, Childress' system is much like Cottrells Defenses were - systems that took good players and made them crappy.

    "enlvikeman]One" wrote:

    Bandwagon jumping?
    Not hardly.
    How many people have said, "That's it.
    I'm no longer a Viking fan.
    I'm cheering for (fill in winning team here)"?
    Answer:
    Not many.
    Do we complain about our woes?
    Sure do - so do the fans of every other NFL franchise in the country.
    Have some of us thrown in the towel on Childress and/or Jackson?
    You bet.
    Do fans of other teams stick by everyone until the bitter end?
    Nope.

    So, what's your gripe?


    If you're upset because people have already turned on Childress, take a good hard look at what he's managed to accomplish thus far (nothing).
    Take a long, cold look at our schedule and calculate how many of our upcomming games we are LIKELY to win (not many).
    Now, take a look at teams around the NFL who got replacement HC's @ the same time we did (both Detroit and Green Bay did), and compare our progress to theirs.


    Still think we're jumping the gun (or the bandwagon)?
    I don't.


    If you're upset because people are ready to move beyond Tarvaris Jackson, ask yourself, "why"?
    Is it because you feel we should stick with a guy who might have a whole lot of potential?
    Is that assertion made by the same guy who can't seem to get the offense to fire on any cylinders (thereby making it suspect)?


    Football fans are notoriously impatient.
    That holds true for EVERY franchise.
    Visit any fan site for any franchise who isn't undefeated, and you'll see fans complaining about something.
    As for what other people say about Viking fans...I couldn't care less.
    As far as I'm concerned, they can all shimmy up my leg and blow me.


    [quote author=enlvikeman]Fire Childress?
    GROW THE F*CK UP!
    ......whatever.

    Caine

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    it is not in the football Gods' plans
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    Re: 2 plays and we are 3-0

    If we were 3-0 we still would have stunk up the place and we'd all be wondering when the axe was going to fall

    3-13 this year!
    Yikes, its the Steckel era all over again!!

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    "gregair13" wrote:
    it is not in the football Gods' plans
    Well then, call me an atheist!!!
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