1st and 35?

**aceclown** · 11-15-2005, 09:58 PM

"ultravikingfan" wrote:

I have it on DVD and have watched it dozens of times.

As much as I would like to think we got screwed...it was the right call. Not only that, but it was pretty obvious.

When I get a chance I may post the clip here.

Did he extend his arms? Did he push the DB with his body?

Del Rio · 11-15-2005, 10:01 PM

All wide recievers push off.

Pro-Bowl wideouts don't get caught.

**JDogg926** · 11-15-2005, 10:03 PM

Yeah, it was more of a bump, the kind of "push off" that a receiver usually gets away with. A poor call, in my opinion, but hey we won, anyway, who cares?

**snowinapril** · 11-15-2005, 10:04 PM

"ultravikingfan" wrote:

I have it on DVD and have watched it dozens of times.

As much as I would like to think we got screwed...it was the right call. Not only that, but it was pretty obvious.

When I get a chance I may post the clip here.

Thanks Ultra, I felt like I was the only one here that saw it that way.

Once again, I am not a closet Giants Fan and I don't think that Ultra is either, unless on his other arm he has a Tat of NYG, highly doubt it would go well with the Vikes Tat. Never seen his other arm! :lol:

**ultravikingfan** · 11-15-2005, 10:13 PM

"JDogg926" wrote:

Yeah, it was more of a bump, the kind of "push off" that a receiver usually gets away with. A poor call, in my opinion, but hey we won, anyway, who cares?

He pushed.

Like I said, I will get it up here soon.

Takes awhile to convert the DVD and clip it.

**jellovike** · 11-15-2005, 10:38 PM

I'm still confused by the Manning fumble that was overturned by the review. Even if Manning's hand moved forward for a pass, the ball went backwards. Wouldn't the backwards pass make the fact that Manning's hand went forward irrelevant? The way I see it, the only way that could have been an incomplete pass was if the pass was batted down and I dont remember if we got a hand on the ball or just Manning's arm.

**snowinapril** · 11-15-2005, 10:53 PM

"jellovike" wrote:

I'm still confused by the Manning fumble that was overturned by the review. Even if Manning's hand moved forward for a pass, the ball went backwards. Wouldn't the backwards pass make the fact that Manning's hand went forward irrelevant? The way I see it, the only way that could have been an incomplete pass was if the pass was batted down and I dont remember if we got a hand on the ball or just Manning's arm.

IDK, that one puzzled me too. I wonder if it was a tchnicallity in the wording of the challenge??? Anyone know?

**jellovike** · 11-15-2005, 10:57 PM

I like the blue devils sig snow. I went to Cave Spring High School with JJ Reddick. He was awesome.

**ultravikingfan** · 11-15-2005, 11:33 PM

I believe it was because the arm/ball were moving forward.

**FuadFan** · 11-15-2005, 11:55 PM

"ultravikingfan" wrote:

I believe it was because the arm/ball were moving forward.

I think I heard that the refs called it a fumble because they thought he did not get his arm forward and Coughlin challenged that alone and Tice could not challenge that he threw it backwards because they had already made a final ruling on it.