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    Re: 1998 vs 2004 roster

    "Prophet" wrote:
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    "Prophet" wrote:
    "briboy75" wrote:
    Here is the 1998 roster:

    DE
    Derrick Alexander
    K
    Gary Anderson
    FB
    Obafemi Ayanbadejo
    DT
    Jerry Ball
    DB
    Antonio Banks
    DB
    Anthony Bass
    LB
    Peter Bercich
    P
    Mitch Berger
    T
    Matt Birk
    WR
    Tony Bland
    G
    Orlando Bobo
    S
    Duane Butler
    WR
    Cris Carter
    C
    Jeff Christy
    DE
    Duane Clemons
    DE
    Stalin Colinet
    QB
    Randall Cunningham
    TE
    Greg DeLong
    G/T
    David Dixon
    LB
    Dixon Edwards
    FB
    Chuck Evans
    QB
    Jay Fiedler
    DT
    Jason Fisk
    CB
    Corey Fuller
    TE
    Andrew Glover
    TE
    Hunter Goodwin
    S
    Torrian Gray
    S
    Robert Griffith
    WR
    Matt Hatchette
    CB
    Jimmy Hitchcock
    RB
    Leroy Hoard
    LB
    Bobby Houston
    QB
    Brad Johnson
    G/C
    Everett Lindsay
    T
    Chris Liwienski
    LB
    Kivuusama Mays
    LB
    Ed McDaniel
    G
    Randall McDaniel
    CB
    Ramos McDonald
    C
    Mike Morris
    FB
    Harold Morrow
    WR
    Randy Moss
    RB/WR
    David Palmer
    CB
    Anthony Phillips
    DT
    John Randle
    WR
    Jake Reed
    LB
    Dwayne Rudd
    RB
    Robert Smith
    T
    Todd Steussie
    T
    Korey Stringer
    WR
    Robert Tate
    S
    Orlando Thomas
    WR
    Chris Walsh
    DT
    Ben Williams
    RB
    Moe Williams
    DT
    Tony Williams
    LB
    Kailee Wong

    How do you think we compare now?
    Where are we stronger? Where are we weaker?
    How does the '09 roster stack up against the '98 roster? I would take the '09 in a heartbeat.
    Did your heart stop or something?

    Our defense is better than 98 but the offense and the coaching is way short of anything we had in 98. No way in hell I would trade the FUO that we have now for the 98 offense.
    I will always take a better defense when given the choice.
    Always.
    I like this year's team better, including offense.
    Tough running game and improving passing game.

    To each their own. I love our defense too. As much as any we have had since Dungy got here. But even with a great defense you have to be able to convert 3rd downs and we haven't done that in the Chilly era.

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    Re: 1998 vs 2004 roster

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    .....Did your heart stop or something?

    Our defense is better than 98 but the offense and the coaching is way short of anything we had in 98. No way in hell I would trade the FUO that we have now for the 98 offense.
    Coming from a guy that, in a few posts up, said he liked the '04 team better than the '98 team.
    That makes sense.
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    Re: 1998 vs 2004 roster

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "briboy75" wrote:
    Here is the 1998 roster:

    DE
    Derrick Alexander
    K
    Gary Anderson
    FB
    Obafemi Ayanbadejo
    DT
    Jerry Ball
    DB
    Antonio Banks
    DB
    Anthony Bass
    LB
    Peter Bercich
    P
    Mitch Berger
    T
    Matt Birk
    WR
    Tony Bland
    G
    Orlando Bobo
    S
    Duane Butler
    WR
    Cris Carter
    C
    Jeff Christy
    DE
    Duane Clemons
    DE
    Stalin Colinet
    QB
    Randall Cunningham
    TE
    Greg DeLong
    G/T
    David Dixon
    LB
    Dixon Edwards
    FB
    Chuck Evans
    QB
    Jay Fiedler
    DT
    Jason Fisk
    CB
    Corey Fuller
    TE
    Andrew Glover
    TE
    Hunter Goodwin
    S
    Torrian Gray
    S
    Robert Griffith
    WR
    Matt Hatchette
    CB
    Jimmy Hitchcock
    RB
    Leroy Hoard
    LB
    Bobby Houston
    QB
    Brad Johnson
    G/C
    Everett Lindsay
    T
    Chris Liwienski
    LB
    Kivuusama Mays
    LB
    Ed McDaniel
    G
    Randall McDaniel
    CB
    Ramos McDonald
    C
    Mike Morris
    FB
    Harold Morrow
    WR
    Randy Moss
    RB/WR
    David Palmer
    CB
    Anthony Phillips
    DT
    John Randle
    WR
    Jake Reed
    LB
    Dwayne Rudd
    RB
    Robert Smith
    T
    Todd Steussie
    T
    Korey Stringer
    WR
    Robert Tate
    S
    Orlando Thomas
    WR
    Chris Walsh
    DT
    Ben Williams
    RB
    Moe Williams
    DT
    Tony Williams
    LB
    Kailee Wong

    How do you think we compare now?
    Where are we stronger? Where are we weaker?
    How does the '09 roster stack up against the '98 roster? I would take the '09 in a heartbeat.
    Did your heart stop or something?

    Our defense is better than 98 but the offense and the coaching is way short of anything we had in 98. No way in hell I would trade the FUO that we have now for the 98 offense.
    I will always take a better defense when given the choice.
    Always.
    I like this year's team better, including offense.
    Tough running game and improving passing game.

    To each their own. I love our defense too. As much as any we have had since Dungy got here. But even with a great defense you have to be able to convert 3rd downs and we haven't done that in the Chilly era.
    The Chilly era has resulted in more losses by one score than any era in Vikings history.
    I sure hope that they filled in enough gaps this year to close that gap with the WR corps and, possibly, a starting QB that doesn't shit his pants when plan A doesn't work.
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain

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    Re: 1998 vs 2004 roster

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    .....Did your heart stop or something?

    Our defense is better than 98 but the offense and the coaching is way short of anything we had in 98. No way in hell I would trade the FUO that we have now for the 98 offense.
    Coming from a guy that, in a few posts up, said he liked the '04 team better than the '98 team.
    That makes sense.
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    Re: 1998 vs 2004 roster

    1998: The Vikings start a new era as the team is sold to Red McCombs. In the draft the Vikings would select troubled WR Randy Moss, after several teams passed on him. Moss would combine with established star Cris Carter and become the most potent 1-2 receiving combo in the NFL. Even with a season ending injury to QB Brad Johnson, the Vikings score a NFL record 556 points under back up Randall Cunningham. Moss would become an instant sensation winning the Offensive Rookie f the year while racking up 1,313 yards and 17 TDs, as the Vikings won the NFC Central by posting a franchise best record of 15-1. In the Divisional Playoffs the Vikings would easily beat the Arizona Cardinals by a score of 41-21. In the NFC Championship the Vikings dominated the Atlanta Falcons all game but could not pull away at the Metrodome. Leading 27-20 late in the 4th Quarter the Vikings seemed set to seal the game, but PK Gary Anderson missed his first kick al year, as the Falcons forced overtime. In OT the Falcons would stun the Vikings 30-27 when Morten Andersen nailed a game winning FG.
    Moss Moss Moss.
    Doesn't tell much about how bad our defense was.

    2004: Coming off their sudden late season collapse the Vikings would again get off to a strong start winning 5 of their first 6 games as Daunte Culpepper embarked on a career season throwing for NFL best 4,717 yards, while connecting on 39 Touchdown Passes. However a hamstring injury would leave the Vikings without Randy Moss for a month as the Vikings were hamstrung losing their next 3, including a heartbreaking loss to the Green Bay Packers on the final play. The Vikings would rebound to win their next 2
    Nate Burleson established himself as a go to receiver with a team high 1,006 yards while scoring 9 TDs as Moss was not playing at 100%. Sitting at 7-4 the Vikings were in solid position to make the playoffs and challenged for the NFC North, when they went into another tailspin losing 4 of their final games including another heartbreaking final second loss to the Packers. The end of the season slump saw the Vikings fall to 8-8, but it did not see them fall out of the playoffs as they backed in thanks to some fortunate tiebreakers. The playoff berth gave the Vikings a 3rd chance to beat the Packers, and third time would be a charm as the Vikings jumped out to a 17-0 lead in the 1st Quarter and never looked back stunning the Packers in Lambeau Field 31-17, while Randy Moss rubbed it in by pretending to moon Packers fans after a Touchdown. IN the next round things would not be as easy for the Vikings as they fell behind the Philadelphia Eagles early losing 27-14. Following the season while the Vikings were being sold to a new ownership group, the front office fed up with some of Randy Moss's antics on and off the field decided to trade their star to the Oakland Raiders for LB Napoleon Harris and a pair of draft picks.
    That year flat assed sucked.
    I am not sure why we would try to compare it with the 98 season.?
    http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html
    Anyway, I for one am glad those years are behind us.
    We seem to have a team that is balanced or atleast a bit heavy on the Defensive side of the ball with a bright future.


    For a cat like me, that is alot better kindof team than either of those.
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