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    Re: LT vs AD


    Let's look at the numbers













    LT











    AD









    BW
    2001





    1603yds, 10td




    0yds,0td






    0yds,0td
    2002





    2172yds, 15td




    0yds,0td




    304yds,1td
    2003





    2391yds, 18td




    0yds,0td




    945yds,13td
    2004





    1814yds, 18td




    0yds,0td




    1515yds,10td
    2005





    1879yds, 23td




    0yds,0td




    1233yds, 7td
    2006





    2343yds, 33td




    0yds,0td




    1916yds,11td
    2007





    1966yds, 19td




    1609yds,13td
    2104yds,12td
    total





    14168yds, 136td


    1609yds, 13td
    8017yds, 54td


    I think I would take AD before Westbrook, too much upside with AD. I understand the argument though, he did have more fantasy points than peterson in 07.
    (Westbrooks only TD in his rookie year was also his only pass attempt of his career, a perfect 158.3)


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    Re: LT vs AD

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "seaniemck7" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    Let's look at the numbers













    LT











    AD


    2001





    1603yds, 10td




    0yds,0td



    2002





    2172yds, 15td




    0yds,0td
    2003





    2391yds, 18td




    0yds,0td
    2004





    1814yds, 18td




    0yds,0td
    2005





    1879yds, 23td




    0yds,0td
    2006





    2343yds, 33td




    0yds,0td
    2007





    1966yds, 19td




    1609yds,13td
    total





    14168yds, 136td


    1609yds, 13td

    Hmmm, I think I'll go with LT, he is as close to a sure thing as there is in fantasy football. He is averaging over 2,000yds and 19 tds a season for his career.
    Then again Peterson outperformed LT's rookie season, if you think he can outperform LT's second season then you should go with Peterson.
    I hope I get the second pick in the draft so I don't have to choose.
    Man... LT is sick.
    I couldn't agree more.


    Only bad thing I have to say about him is how he dealt with his injury and his team in his last 2 games and I will readily admit that I probably don't know the whole story but just what the sports hacks were spewing.

    I believe he is gonna have a huge year.
    The fact of the matter is LT remains the most consistant FF scorer in the last what? 5 years?
    Until he gets knocked off his perch; you gotta take him.
    AD has the upside, but LT is still in the prime of his career with an offense that is built around him to shine in FF.


    If you play in a PPR league, I don't think its even a close call: LT all the way. Like Marrdro, I would probably take Westy at #2 in a PPR league.
    Carefull, you could be labled as a Nit Picker or a Hater..... ;D

    How many leagues you play in Sean?
    I play in 3 leagues.
    2 of them going on 6+ years now. None of them are keeper or dynasty leagues and none of them use IDP.
    2 are snake draft 12 team leagues.
    The 3rd is a 14man auction draft (this one does employ a head coach).
    Any more than that, and I would go insane :P

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    Re: LT vs AD

    "jessejames09" wrote:
    "CrazyVikingsFan" wrote:
    Logic Glasses:
    LT is the only choice here. He has been consistant his entire career and he will not stop now. AP has been playing for one year. Peterson could easily fall into the phase known as sophomore slump and do worse than last year. The vikings pass attack could be ineffective and defenses stock 8 guys in the box and AP's attempts will be futile. Also I had AP on my fantasy team last year and yes he did do amazing the first half of the season but no one really talks about his downward spiral during the second half. LT is for sure the most logical and only choice at number 1.

    Purple Blinders:
    AP all day baby! 3000 yards and 30 tds...
    No Glasses;
    LT is aging, and statistically on the decline. I think LT's first half of the season is comparable to ADs 2nd half. AD is coming off of his rookie of the year season, in which he drew comparisons, not to LT, but to greats like, Peyton, Brown, and Sanders. AD has the potential to shatter records, as no one has seen what he can do against a defense that has to defend the pass. Not to mention last year was his first season in the league, and he's still learning, he will obviously be in the game more and catch more balls this year. Our pass offense couldn't possibly be worse then last seasons, seeing as we've only added talent and another year as a unit. And his 'downward spiral' was do to 11 defenders trying to stop the run first. Not AD forgetting how to bust off yards.

    Frankly, if teams can key in on the run so hard again this year, and stop us, TJ, Childress, Bevell, and Rogers all deserve to be fired, before the end of the season.


    layman's glasses;
    AD didn't have a successful last half of the season, he obviously lost something. LT plays for a better team. AD can't block and comes out for 1/3rd of our plays and that stupid chiller doesn't throw enough screens to him.
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    To me Adrian Peterson has so much more potential it's scary. Whereas LT can only really go down. Can you honestly say you think LT could have done what AD did against the Bears and Chargers? Vikings fans are just too reluctant to enjoy what they have now because we get our hopes up every-year to be pooped on.

    So LT might be the 'safe' pick but only because people might giggle if you pass him up. I say if you want to go for broke and get the most talented individual out there on your team, go for AD.
    Good points.
    I think they will be splitting time a little differently this year than they did last.
    With a full off-season to progress and learn, AD should not be a liability on 3rd downs anymore.
    I see Chester taking a series here and there rather than specific plays (except of course if AD rips off a big run and needs a break)

    This is also where the possible use of Maurice Hicks in the offense will come from.
    He could very well be the back who could go in for the occasional 3rd down or spot play occasionally.

    In any case, this should lead to AD getting more playing time and staying on the field longer when he is "in the zone", If he gets involved more in the passing game and catches 30-45 balls he very well could have a better year than LT.

    Bottom line is this is a crap shoot and if they both stay healthy, they will both be players you can ride straight to the playoffs in your FFL.


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    Re: LT vs AD

    "jessejames09" wrote:
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    So LT might be the 'safe' pick but only because people might giggle if you pass him up. I say if you want to go for broke and get the most talented individual out there on your team, go for AD.
    The first round of the draft doesn't win the league for you but it definitely can kill it for you.
    The middle rounds win the league for you but if you bust out on the first pick you are essentially screwed.
    You want a guy that will perform as expected and let the middle round guys excel to bring home the trophy.

    My choice would be LT2 without a second thought.....

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    Re: LT vs AD

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    "CrazyVikingsFan" wrote:
    Logic Glasses:
    LT is the only choice here. He has been consistant his entire career and he will not stop now. AP has been playing for one year. Peterson could easily fall into the phase known as sophomore slump and do worse than last year. The vikings pass attack could be ineffective and defenses stock 8 guys in the box and AP's attempts will be futile. Also I had AP on my fantasy team last year and yes he did do amazing the first half of the season but no one really talks about his downward spiral during the second half. LT is for sure the most logical and only choice at number 1.

    Purple Blinders:
    AP all day baby! 3000 yards and 30 tds...
    No Glasses;
    LT is aging, and statistically on the decline. I think LT's first half of the season is comparable to ADs 2nd half. AD is coming off of his rookie of the year season, in which he drew comparisons, not to LT, but to greats like, Peyton, Brown, and Sanders. AD has the potential to shatter records, as no one has seen what he can do against a defense that has to defend the pass. Not to mention last year was his first season in the league, and he's still learning, he will obviously be in the game more and catch more balls this year. Our pass offense couldn't possibly be worse then last seasons, seeing as we've only added talent and another year as a unit. And his 'downward spiral' was do to 11 defenders trying to stop the run first. Not AD forgetting how to bust off yards.

    Frankly, if teams can key in on the run so hard again this year, and stop us, TJ, Childress, Bevell, and Rogers all deserve to be fired, before the end of the season.


    layman's glasses;
    AD didn't have a successful last half of the season, he obviously lost something. LT plays for a better team. AD can't block and comes out for 1/3rd of our plays and that stupid chiller doesn't throw enough screens to him.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    To me Adrian Peterson has so much more potential it's scary. Whereas LT can only really go down. Can you honestly say you think LT could have done what AD did against the Bears and Chargers? Vikings fans are just too reluctant to enjoy what they have now because we get our hopes up every-year to be pooped on.

    So LT might be the 'safe' pick but only because people might giggle if you pass him up. I say if you want to go for broke and get the most talented individual out there on your team, go for AD.
    I like your way of giving two different perspectives JJ.
    Great stuff.

    Another thing to consider is that LT, like AD, had a young QB, saw alot of stacked boxes as well as had a backup C (Whithrow) up front last year which affected his numbers.

    My guess is they will have better QB play this year which will not only help out on the run numbers but will get him some more passing stats as well.

    Again, love AD to death but as I said in another thread, I would look at LT first and possibly even Westbrook second then AD.
    Another thing to consider is LT comes out of games when his team is winning by a decent margin so I don't think Lt's stats are on the decline just yet.
    The duy just turned 29 and has plenty good years left barring injury.
    I have LT as one of my keepers this year.
    I was lucky enough to have the 1st pick last year and we are allowed 2 keepers this year.

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