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    Baseball statistics: history or property?
    Fantasy league company sues for free rights to batting averages
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    Sunday, January 15, 2006; Posted: 4:36 p.m. EST (21:36 GMT)

    ST. LOUIS, Missouri (AP) -- A company that runs sports fantasy leagues is asking a federal court to decide whether major leaguers' batting averages and home run counts are historical facts that can be used freely or property that can be sold.

    In a lawsuit that could affect the pastime of an estimated 16 million people, CBC Distribution and Marketing wants the judge to stop Major League Baseball from requiring a license to use the statistics.

    The company says baseball statistics become historical facts as soon as the game is over, so it shouldn't have to pay for the right to use them.

    Working mostly over the Internet, CBC and its hundreds of competitors provide player profiles and process reams of daily data for fans who pretend to be team owners, drafting players for imaginary squads and using statistics to determine a winner at the season's end.

    While some leagues are just for fun, others award large cash prizes, and operating them has become a multimillion-dollar industry.

    CBC, which has run the CDM Fantasy Sports leagues since 1992, sued baseball last year after it took over the rights to the statistics and profiles from the Major League Baseball Players Association and declined to grant the company a new license.

    Before the shift, CBC had been paying the players' association 9 percent of gross. But in January 2005, Major League Baseball announced a $50 million agreement with the players' association giving baseball exclusive rights to license statistics.

    Despite being turned down for the new license, CBC has continued to operate leagues during the legal dispute.

    Major League Baseball has claimed that intellectual property law makes it illegal for fantasy league operators to "commercially exploit the identities and statistical profiles" of big league players.

    Jim Gallagher, a spokesman for Major League Baseball Advanced Media, baseball's Internet arm, declined comment on the lawsuit, scheduled for a hearing this summer in U.S. District Court in St. Louis, Missouri.

    Ben Clark, a St. Louis attorney who specializes in intellectual property rights, said a win by Major League Baseball could "send a shudder through the entire fantasy industry," he said.

    On the other hand, he said, it stands to lose the rights to any royalties for use of statistics.

    "You just wonder whether it's a fight Major League Baseball wants to have," he said.

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    Looks like the MLB is looking to give itself another black eye..

    I'm almost to the point of never watching baseball again......

    One Fucked UP League for sure........


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    Just think, If they win that, (the MLB).......Would the NFL follow suit and do the same with FF leagues?


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    As for the Fantasy Baseball league, Not ME...

    I tried last year, and it takes up alot of time and effort, more time than I have free really..

    Good luck to those that do..


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    "VikingNed" wrote:
    Just think, If they win that, (the MLB).......Would the NFL follow suit and do the same with FF leagues?
    It seems like that topic has come up the past few years during the offseason. Since it's a big $$$ making industry I'm sure there are people eyeballing the situation and trying to get their slice of the pie. The NFL is in a lot better position to charge for the stats than baseball is right now. I sure hope it doesn't come to this, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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    "VikingNed" wrote:
    Just think, If they win that, (the MLB).......Would the NFL follow suit and do the same with FF leagues?
    that would apply to anything thats fantasy probably..golf, nascar..lol..whatever

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    This isnt your "all-out, everyday transaction league" you set your line-up once a week(on Sunday), and let it ride from Monday-Sunday. All I ask is for complete participation, I asked for that with the fantasy football league I ran this season, and over half of those in it didnt bother. If ya dont think you can sustain that over the full baseball season, dont waste your time or those who are in it. Those who have a so-so team, but want to make trades to better theirs cant, cause folks who dont fully participate usually dont bother to check their e-mail or league postings to see whats going on. Thus, the ones who do participate get screwed, cause they have limited teams they can ask for a trade. Im sure there was alot of that going on in the PPO fantasy football league this year(ask webby), that part of it really blows..there was a waiting list for that league, yet there were people who didnt bother to submit line-ups. Not really fair to those on the waiting list..anyway, if you want to get in AND play all season long lemme know..so far we have the following:

    myself

    waynesworld84

    gregair13

    hailtocarter

    DarrinNelsonguy

    MnFan_in_Canada

    BirdHunter

    so, right now we need 1 more to complete an 8 man league, or 3 more to go 10 man league, again, all I ask for is complete participation.

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    1-3 more needed..anybody ?

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    Come on guys and gals. One more person.

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    Im up for Fantasy Baseball


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