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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

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    All right you asked for it:

    TARVARIS JACKSON - 3 years, 19 starts, 10-9 record, 3,442 yards, 20 TD, 18 INTs, 76.5 rating

    Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - Didn't sniff the field until he had been in the league for six years, but then proceeded to - throw for 29 TDs and go to a Pro Bowl and make All-Pro with a 98.3 rating in his first season as a starter (T-Jack has already had two seasons as a starter and has not sniffed those numbers)

    Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - In his first season he was the starter, but the time he had played TWO seasons he was a Pro Bowler and three seasons (where T-Jack is) he played in two Pro Bowls, was an All-Pro and won a freakin World Championship (hardly comparable to T-Jack right). Just for poohies and giggles ... his three years in the league - 6,000 yards, 52 TDs, 34 INTs. What kind of idiot would write an article saying that the fans would had given up on this guy? And what kind of idiot would then use that article to back up his point without looking up the numbers?


    Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - Was not named starter until his third year in the league, promptly went 10-0 (10 and fricken 0! What did T-Jack do in his third year?). Was an All-Pro with a 104 rating!

    Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - Actually ... what the floop is he on this list for? He was never an above average QB ... he just happen to win two Super Bowls with a solid cast around him. He was a weak link on that team and never sniffed a Pro Bowl. So personally, if this is the best T-Jack can do, then bye Tarvaris.

    Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - A decent example because he actually sucked when he was given the reigns and probably should have been run out of town.

    Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - Are you fricken kidding me? What the floop is this guy doing on the list? He pretty much always sucked as well. Had one good year on a team that pretty much any QB could have done well on. And actually ... his numbers sucked that year too. If T-Jack is only Jim McMahon ... run that little pooh out of town.

    Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - Sucked his whole career. Again ... if T-Jack is only as good as Doug Williams ... bye bye.

    Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - Was behind Joe fricken Montana! Do you see T-Jack being held back by Joe fricken Montana? Stupid fricken argument. Everyone knew he was great, but the 49ers had him locked down. He had two years of awfulness in T.Bay ... and was kind of a commodity after they parted ways, the 49ers brought him in an sured up the position through 1998.

    Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - Went to the fricken Pro Bowl in his first season with the Packers. Again, how is this comparable to T-Jack? Favre was great as soon as he got the reigns ... T-Jack has had the reigns twice ... and been pretty poohie both times.

    John Elway, Denver Broncos - John Elway went 12-2 his second year followed by two 11-5 seasons. How is this comparable to T-Jack? Three years into the NFL, Elway had thrown for 8,000 fricken yards. Again ... not comparable.

    Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - The complete anti-argument to this. Warner threw 41 TDs his first year as a starter in the fricken league. T-Jack didn't did he? Hell, I don't know. From some of the T-Jack ball-lickers around here it seems he may have indeed thrown 41 TDs in the Arizona game last season.

    Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - Sucks.

    Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Had been given up on by a couple teams already. Tampa could have won with 1,000 other QBs ... but not T-Jack.

    Eli Manning, New York Giants - A decent comparison. Though by the time he had been in the league three years he had been to the playoffs twice, had accounted for 8,000 yards and 54 TDs. So wait ... not a good comparison at all.

    Why do people keep fricken bringing up players from the past as if they have ANYTHING TO DO WITH TARVARIS JACKSON?
    Tarvaris Jackson is simply Tarvaris Jackson ... not John Elway, not Brett Favre, not Len Dawson, not even Doug fricken Williams.
    If the best argument you have for keeping T-Jack in at QB is that he has not sucked long enough to make a fair assessment because Joe Theismann sucked for 8 years so we should wait until T-Jack has sucked at least that long ... then it is time to come up with a new argument.
    +1

    Wow... that got your goat.
    Great job!

    IMO, TJ is a good backup and will probably be like Sage, a career backup.
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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "marstc09" wrote:
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    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

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    All right you asked for it:

    TARVARIS JACKSON - 3 years, 19 starts, 10-9 record, 3,442 yards, 20 TD, 18 INTs, 76.5 rating

    Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - Didn't sniff the field until he had been in the league for six years, but then proceeded to - throw for 29 TDs and go to a Pro Bowl and make All-Pro with a 98.3 rating in his first season as a starter (T-Jack has already had two seasons as a starter and has not sniffed those numbers)

    Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - In his first season he was the starter, but the time he had played TWO seasons he was a Pro Bowler and three seasons (where T-Jack is) he played in two Pro Bowls, was an All-Pro and won a freakin World Championship (hardly comparable to T-Jack right). Just for shits and giggles ... his three years in the league - 6,000 yards, 52 TDs, 34 INTs. What kind of idiot would write an article saying that the fans would had given up on this guy? And what kind of idiot would then use that article to back up his point without looking up the numbers?


    Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - Was not named starter until his third year in the league, promptly went 10-0 (10 and fucking 0! What did T-Jack do in his third year?). Was an All-Pro with a 104 rating!

    Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - Actually ... what the fuck is he on this list for? He was never an above average QB ... he just happen to win two Super Bowls with a solid cast around him. He was a weak link on that team and never sniffed a Pro Bowl. So personally, if this is the best T-Jack can do, then bye Tarvaris.

    Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - A decent example because he actually sucked when he was given the reigns and probably should have been run out of town.

    Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck is this guy doing on the list? He pretty much always sucked as well. Had one good year on a team that pretty much any QB could have done well on. And actually ... his numbers sucked that year too. If T-Jack is only Jim McMahon ... run that little shit out of town.

    Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - Sucked his whole career. Again ... if T-Jack is only as good as Doug Williams ... bye bye.

    Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - Was behind Joe fucking Montana! Do you see T-Jack being held back by Joe fucking Montana? Stupid fucking argument. Everyone knew he was great, but the 49ers had him locked down. He had two years of awfulness in T.Bay ... and was kind of a commodity after they parted ways, the 49ers brought him in an sured up the position through 1998.

    Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - Went to the fucking Pro Bowl in his first season with the Packers. Again, how is this comparable to T-Jack? Favre was great as soon as he got the reigns ... T-Jack has had the reigns twice ... and been pretty shitty both times.

    John Elway, Denver Broncos - John Elway went 12-2 his second year followed by two 11-5 seasons. How is this comparable to T-Jack? Three years into the NFL, Elway had thrown for 8,000 fucking yards. Again ... not comparable.

    Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - The complete anti-argument to this. Warner threw 41 TDs his first year as a starter in the fucking league. T-Jack didn't did he? Hell, I don't know. From some of the T-Jack ball-lickers around here it seems he may have indeed thrown 41 TDs in the Arizona game last season.

    Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - Sucks.

    Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Had been given up on by a couple teams already. Tampa could have won with 1,000 other QBs ... but not T-Jack.

    Eli Manning, New York Giants - A decent comparison. Though by the time he had been in the league three years he had been to the playoffs twice, had accounted for 8,000 yards and 54 TDs. So wait ... not a good comparison at all.

    Why do people keep fucking bringing up players from the past as if they have ANYTHING TO DO WITH TARVARIS JACKSON?
    Tarvaris Jackson is simply Tarvaris Jackson ... not John Elway, not Brett Favre, not Len Dawson, not even Doug fucking Williams.
    If the best argument you have for keeping T-Jack in at QB is that he has not sucked long enough to make a fair assessment because Joe Theismann sucked for 8 years so we should wait until T-Jack has sucked at least that long ... then it is time to come up with a new argument.

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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "gagarr" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    All right you asked for it:

    TARVARIS JACKSON - 3 years, 19 starts, 10-9 record, 3,442 yards, 20 TD, 18 INTs, 76.5 rating

    Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - Didn't sniff the field until he had been in the league for six years, but then proceeded to - throw for 29 TDs and go to a Pro Bowl and make All-Pro with a 98.3 rating in his first season as a starter (T-Jack has already had two seasons as a starter and has not sniffed those numbers)

    Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - In his first season he was the starter, but the time he had played TWO seasons he was a Pro Bowler and three seasons (where T-Jack is) he played in two Pro Bowls, was an All-Pro and won a freakin World Championship (hardly comparable to T-Jack right). Just for poohies and giggles ... his three years in the league - 6,000 yards, 52 TDs, 34 INTs. What kind of idiot would write an article saying that the fans would had given up on this guy? And what kind of idiot would then use that article to back up his point without looking up the numbers?


    Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - Was not named starter until his third year in the league, promptly went 10-0 (10 and fricken 0! What did T-Jack do in his third year?). Was an All-Pro with a 104 rating!

    Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - Actually ... what the floop is he on this list for? He was never an above average QB ... he just happen to win two Super Bowls with a solid cast around him. He was a weak link on that team and never sniffed a Pro Bowl. So personally, if this is the best T-Jack can do, then bye Tarvaris.

    Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - A decent example because he actually sucked when he was given the reigns and probably should have been run out of town.

    Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - Are you fricken kidding me? What the floop is this guy doing on the list? He pretty much always sucked as well. Had one good year on a team that pretty much any QB could have done well on. And actually ... his numbers sucked that year too. If T-Jack is only Jim McMahon ... run that little pooh out of town.

    Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - Sucked his whole career. Again ... if T-Jack is only as good as Doug Williams ... bye bye.

    Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - Was behind Joe fricken Montana! Do you see T-Jack being held back by Joe fricken Montana? Stupid fricken argument. Everyone knew he was great, but the 49ers had him locked down. He had two years of awfulness in T.Bay ... and was kind of a commodity after they parted ways, the 49ers brought him in an sured up the position through 1998.

    Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - Went to the fricken Pro Bowl in his first season with the Packers. Again, how is this comparable to T-Jack? Favre was great as soon as he got the reigns ... T-Jack has had the reigns twice ... and been pretty poohie both times.

    John Elway, Denver Broncos - John Elway went 12-2 his second year followed by two 11-5 seasons. How is this comparable to T-Jack? Three years into the NFL, Elway had thrown for 8,000 fricken yards. Again ... not comparable.

    Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - The complete anti-argument to this. Warner threw 41 TDs his first year as a starter in the fricken league. T-Jack didn't did he? Hell, I don't know. From some of the T-Jack ball-lickers around here it seems he may have indeed thrown 41 TDs in the Arizona game last season.

    Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - Sucks.

    Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Had been given up on by a couple teams already. Tampa could have won with 1,000 other QBs ... but not T-Jack.

    Eli Manning, New York Giants - A decent comparison. Though by the time he had been in the league three years he had been to the playoffs twice, had accounted for 8,000 yards and 54 TDs. So wait ... not a good comparison at all.

    Why do people keep fricken bringing up players from the past as if they have ANYTHING TO DO WITH TARVARIS JACKSON?
    Tarvaris Jackson is simply Tarvaris Jackson ... not John Elway, not Brett Favre, not Len Dawson, not even Doug fricken Williams.
    If the best argument you have for keeping T-Jack in at QB is that he has not sucked long enough to make a fair assessment because Joe Theismann sucked for 8 years so we should wait until T-Jack has sucked at least that long ... then it is time to come up with a new argument.
    +1

    Wow... that got your goat.
    Great job!

    IMO, TJ is a good backup and will probably be like Sage, a career backup.
    Yeah ... I am kind of getting tired of this lame argument.

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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - Didn't sniff the field until he had been in the league for six years, but then proceeded to - throw for 29 TDs and go to a Pro Bowl and make All-Pro with a 98.3 rating in his first season as a starter (T-Jack has already had two seasons as a starter and has not sniffed those numbers)
    So, you're saying someone who had 6 years to ride the bench and learn the system played better than a QB who was prematurely thrusted into the starting spot? Very observant of you.

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - In his first season he was the starter, but the time he had played TWO seasons he was a Pro Bowler and three seasons (where T-Jack is) he played in two Pro Bowls, was an All-Pro and won a freakin World Championship (hardly comparable to T-Jack right). Just for poohies and giggles ... his three years in the league - 6,000 yards, 52 TDs, 34 INTs. What kind of idiot would write an article saying that the fans would had given up on this guy? And what kind of idiot would then use that article to back up his point without looking up the numbers?
    Yes, by saying Jackson is playing worse than one of the best QBs of all time is a strong argument... I'm sure many people who can't think for themselves will agree with this.


    "midgensa" wrote:
    Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - Was not named starter until his third year in the league, promptly went 10-0 (10 and fricken 0! What did T-Jack do in his third year?). Was an All-Pro with a 104 rating!
    Jackson had a 95 QB rating in his third year... and also didn't have Tom Landry as a coach. Crazy what happens when you look at the bigger picture... isn't it?

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - Actually ... what the floop is he on this list for? He was never an above average QB ... he just happen to win two Super Bowls with a solid cast around him. He was a weak link on that team and never sniffed a Pro Bowl. So personally, if this is the best T-Jack can do, then bye Tarvaris.
    But... you want to give Sage a chance? Do you see how contradictory that is? Seriously, anyone who agrees with your post either didn't read it or has no cognitive process.

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - A decent example because he actually sucked when he was given the reigns and probably should have been run out of town.

    Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - Are you fricken kidding me? What the floop is this guy doing on the list? He pretty much always sucked as well. Had one good year on a team that pretty much any QB could have done well on. And actually ... his numbers sucked that year too. If T-Jack is only Jim McMahon ... run that little pooh out of town.

    Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - Sucked his whole career. Again ... if T-Jack is only as good as Doug Williams ... bye bye.
    Tough to argue with such intelligence, "Run that little shit out of town"... Very well articulated.

    "midgensa" wrote:
    Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - Was behind Joe fricken Montana! Do you see T-Jack being held back by Joe fricken Montana? Stupid fricken argument. Everyone knew he was great, but the 49ers had him locked down. He had two years of awfulness in T.Bay ... and was kind of a commodity after they parted ways, the 49ers brought him in an sured up the position through 1998.
    What? Do you see Jackson being held back by Montana? Haha... man, if I had "+1" this post, like Nodak and IBP, I'd be embarrassed. This doesn't even make sense.


    "midgensa" wrote:
    Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - Went to the fricken Pro Bowl in his first season with the Packers. Again, how is this comparable to T-Jack? Favre was great as soon as he got the reigns ... T-Jack has had the reigns twice ... and been pretty poohie both times.

    John Elway, Denver Broncos - John Elway went 12-2 his second year followed by two 11-5 seasons. How is this comparable to T-Jack? Three years into the NFL, Elway had thrown for 8,000 fricken yards. Again ... not comparable.

    Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - The complete anti-argument to this. Warner threw 41 TDs his first year as a starter in the fricken league. T-Jack didn't did he? Hell, I don't know. From some of the T-Jack ball-lickers around here it seems he may have indeed thrown 41 TDs in the Arizona game last season.

    Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - Sucks.

    Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Had been given up on by a couple teams already. Tampa could have won with 1,000 other QBs ... but not T-Jack.

    Eli Manning, New York Giants - A decent comparison. Though by the time he had been in the league three years he had been to the playoffs twice, had accounted for 8,000 yards and 54 TDs. So wait ... not a good comparison at all.

    Why do people keep fricken bringing up players from the past as if they have ANYTHING TO DO WITH TARVARIS JACKSON?
    Tarvaris Jackson is simply Tarvaris Jackson ... not John Elway, not Brett Favre, not Len Dawson, not even Doug fricken Williams.
    If the best argument you have for keeping T-Jack in at QB is that he has not sucked long enough to make a fair assessment because Joe Theismann sucked for 8 years so we should wait until T-Jack has sucked at least that long ... then it is time to come up with a new argument.
    Not even sure where to start with the rest of this post... pretty low-browed assessment of the situation.

    I will ask this though, how old was Kurt Warner? Did he have experience in other leagues?
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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "vegasvike" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
    No but most people expect better than this......

    Rating: 35.4
    Completion %: 50
    Yards: 50
    TDs: 0
    INT: 1
    Y/A: 2.5
    Sacks: 3
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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "vegasvike" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
    No but most people expect better than this......

    Rating: 35.4
    Completion %: 50
    Yards: 50
    TDs: 0
    INT: 1
    Y/A: 2.5
    Sacks: 3
    Fumbles: 1
    lol!

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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "vegasvike" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
    No but most people expect better than this......

    Rating: 35.4
    Completion %: 50
    Yards: 50
    TDs: 0
    INT: 1
    Y/A: 2.5
    Sacks: 3
    Fumbles: 1
    lol!
    His first career game as a rookie? Really?

    By the way... how many of the starting WR from that year are still on the team?
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

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    "marstc09" wrote:
    "vegasvike" wrote:
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    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52474.msg972196#msg972196 date=1248244574]
    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
    No but most people expect better than this......

    Rating: 35.4
    Completion %: 50
    Yards: 50
    TDs: 0
    INT: 1
    Y/A: 2.5
    Sacks: 3
    Fumbles: 1
    lol!
    His first career game as a rookie? Really?

    By the way... how many of the starting WR from that year are still on the team?
    [/quote]

    Yes really. Even Ryan Leaf did better than that!

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    Re: What Do These QB's Have In Common?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "vegasvike" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [size=30pt]Patience with Quarterbacks [/size]

    Moral of the story:
    Even after 48 games, you may not know who will will rise to the top.
    To think you know after 16, is just plain dumb. Everyone needs to quit pretending they are an expert and let the professionals do their job.
    When you call for Tavaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb or Brian Griese to be run out of town, realize you also would have called for the heads of half a dozen Hall of Famers.
    Probably more.

    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/...h-quarterbacks

    Marrdro's comment follows:
    Found this one and it kindof dovetailed with my original question.
    Ironic huh.

    :
    I really don't see you point. I have always stated TJ needs more time learning away from the pressures of the game. I think that is how most think. I think the situation would be totally different if we were a rebuilding team but we are not.
    I think most think that his first game in LAMEBLOW he should have thrown for 6 TD's and ran for 3
    No but most people expect better than this......

    Rating: 35.4
    Completion %: 50
    Yards: 50
    TDs: 0
    INT: 1
    Y/A: 2.5
    Sacks: 3
    Fumbles: 1
    yeah first start, in Green Bay against a very good GB Defense.
    Those ARE horrible stats, but Johnson would not have done any better in opinion.. I find it hard to believe that some people feel as though TJ should have come in and set the world on fire, with the basic O that we had, prematurely mind you but give other QBs a pass when they are put in the same situation.
    Forgot who it was saying that Romo would be a great fit here but look at Romo's record in the DEC and the playoffs
    Thanks for the sig Pack93z


    I love when you take breaks from plucking your unibrow and grunting/slapping to makes posts in this forum

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