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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

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    [size=14pt]Breaking down the free-agent class of an unpredictable offseason[/size]
    By Jason La Canfora
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    Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true
    Good article!

    This is something I didn't know:
    limit the ability of the final four playoff teams in each conference to sign really only one player for every free agent lost
    Thus, if you get farther than the wildcard game you can only get if you lose.
    [s]Assuming [/s] Knowing the Vikes will get to the playoffs with a bye, the Vikes will have to lose CT, Greg Lewis, or Sapp (I think that's it) in order to get someone of UFA.

    CT was brought in to be a starter and is getting starter $$$ at $3mill+, thus CT would probably have to except a pay cut to stay on the team or the Vikes are throwing away $$$ on a high priced insurance policy.
    The Vikes could get much better player for that kinda $$$.

    CT will be able to find a starting position for more than the Vikes will be willing to pay as AD's backup.

    Now we can sign a top safety in Ryan Clark.
    Who is currently getting $1.5mill.

    Also, eventually the cap will be back and Vikes need to save where they can to sign AD, who is gonna be expensive.
    You keep saying this ... but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league. The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    CT just doesn't get enough reps to be able to judge him now.
    But back in 2006 when he was the #1, he had 303att with a 4.0avg and in 2007 when he still got 157 attempts he avg 5.4 behind AD's 238att for 5.6.
    Since then CT's carries were 2008 101 for 4.0avg.
    Although so far this year CT's avg is only 2.7 it could be how they are using him or the weakness of the middle of the line where CT runs.
    AD gets his big runs off tackle to make up for the struggles inside.

    CT if given a chance will show that he's still starter caliber, especially if some consider Forte starter caliber as his 3.4avg isn't rocking.
    IMO CT can still do 4.0 if given the chance to get in rhythm as a rusher.

    As for AD getting paid.
    Current highest cap value for a RB is LT at $7.8 mill. and that contract was done awhile back.
    I'm imagining AD will be close to $9 or 10 mill cap value, higher than most QB's and WR's.
    AD is not gonna come cheap.
    I'm not sure how the uncap season will affect resignings and until the new CBA is out how the cap will be calculated.
    But regardless AD isn't gonna except less than LT's ###'s.
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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

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    "midgensa" wrote:
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    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    +1
    CT will find a good home.

    According to my data, AD's rookie contract had "Other Bonuses" at $2.4 million.

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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "gagarr" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    +1
    CT will find a good home.

    According to my data, AD's rookie contract had "Other Bonuses" at $2.4 million.
    Course this is off topic, however, I read in VU that AD has already reached all of his bonuses in his contract.
    They expect something to happen this year (end of the season) to extend it.
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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "gagarr" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
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    [quote author=midgensa link=topic=54083.msg1016965#msg1016965 date=1258213968]
    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    +1
    CT will find a good home.

    According to my data, AD's rookie contract had "Other Bonuses" at $2.4 million.
    Course this is off topic, however, I read in VU that AD has already reached all of his bonuses in his contract.
    They expect something to happen this year (end of the season) to extend it.
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    really?
    I thought there as a 2000 yard incentive?

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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    Just because I knew who he was does not make him a "big name." I know the names of about 90% of the players in the NFL (as many on this site do) that does not qualify them as big names.

    His last team could not keep him on backup money because he was 27 and hitting his prime ... that simply is not the case anymore.

    Of course a lot of contracts have incentives, my point is he is NOT going to get much in guaranteed money because he is a 31-year-old running back coming off a the worst season of his career production wise (as this year is shaping out to be) and coming off back-to-back declining years.

    There is little doubt that he wants to get as much as he can. That might be from us, that might be from elsewhere. But it will NOT be as a starter.

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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "gagarr" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=54083.msg1016971#msg1016971 date=1258214718]
    [quote author=midgensa link=topic=54083.msg1016965#msg1016965 date=1258213968]
    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    +1
    CT will find a good home.

    According to my data, AD's rookie contract had "Other Bonuses" at $2.4 million.
    Course this is off topic, however, I read in VU that AD has already reached all of his bonuses in his contract.
    They expect something to happen this year (end of the season) to extend it.
    [/quote]

    really?
    I thought there as a 2000 yard incentive?
    [/quote]
    Don't get me wrong.
    There are probably some of those yearly things in there, but his base contract stuff has been achieved.
    At least thats the way I read it.
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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "gagarr" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "gagarr" wrote:
    "HEY" wrote:
    [size=14pt]Breaking down the free-agent class of an unpredictable offseason[/size]
    By Jason La Canfora
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    NFL.com


    Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true
    Good article!

    This is something I didn't know:
    limit the ability of the final four playoff teams in each conference to sign really only one player for every free agent lost
    Thus, if you get farther than the wildcard game you can only get if you lose.
    [s]Assuming [/s] Knowing the Vikes will get to the playoffs with a bye, the Vikes will have to lose CT, Greg Lewis, or Sapp (I think that's it) in order to get someone of UFA.

    CT was brought in to be a starter and is getting starter $$$ at $3mill+, thus CT would probably have to except a pay cut to stay on the team or the Vikes are throwing away $$$ on a high priced insurance policy.
    The Vikes could get much better player for that kinda $$$.

    CT will be able to find a starting position for more than the Vikes will be willing to pay as AD's backup.

    Now we can sign a top safety in Ryan Clark.
    Who is currently getting $1.5mill.

    Also, eventually the cap will be back and Vikes need to save where they can to sign AD, who is gonna be expensive.
    You keep saying this ... but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league. The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    CT just doesn't get enough reps to be able to judge him now.
    But back in 2006 when he was the #1, he had 303att with a 4.0avg and in 2007 when he still got 157 attempts he avg 5.4 behind AD's 238att for 5.6.
    Since then CT's carries were 2008 101 for 4.0avg.
    Although so far this year CT's avg is only 2.7 it could be how they are using him or the weakness of the middle of the line where CT runs.
    AD gets his big runs off tackle to make up for the struggles inside.

    CT if given a chance will show that he's still starter caliber, especially if some consider Forte starter caliber as his 3.4avg isn't rocking.
    IMO CT can still do 4.0 if given the chance to get in rhythm as a rusher.

    As for AD getting paid.
    Current highest cap value for a RB is LT at $7.8 mill. and that contract was done awhile back.
    I'm imagining AD will be close to $9 or 10 mill cap value, higher than most QB's and WR's.
    AD is not gonna come cheap.
    I'm not sure how the uncap season will affect resignings and until the new CBA is out how the cap will be calculated.
    But regardless AD isn't gonna except less than LT's ###'s.
    Oh no ... I would not expect him to get less than $8 million or so, but that is definitely not breaking the bank like for a QB, WR or O-lineman. He will likely be in a decent position considering he will still be young and other teams will covet him. His current agent has done a good job with him.

    As for CT ... that was 2006 ... FOUR seasons ago for whatever team is looking for him next year. He clearly is on the downside of his career.

    We can agree to disagree ... and I am not a thread dredger (that is for jerk I-Told-You-So folks) ... but come the free agency period ... I am fairly certain he will not get a chance to be a starter anywhere. Hell, I cannot think of more than two or three teams right now where he would not be in a better than split situation.

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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    You keep saying this ...[size=10pt] but CT is not going to get "starter" money and probably will not get a starting position anywhere in the league.[/size] The best he can hope for is a similar situation to what we have here with a weaker No. 1 (Portis in Washington for example).

    I personally still think we need to move on at RB despite the fact that CT will not be too relatively expensive. We need to get another young guy in here, maybe in the third or fourth round of the draft, but it cannot be a miss (like Fason was).

    I do think that we need to go after Ryan Clark and need to keep the cap maneuverable for AD, but even AD is not going to be ridiculously expensive because he is a RB and they simply do not get paid like QBs, WRs or even top-tier offensive lineman.
    Not sure why you believe that.
    Truth be told, most backs going into thier last contract would expect that but you have to put CT in a slightly different catagory.

    He has been a backup almost all of his career.
    That equates to less wear and tear on the wheels. A team that needs a experienced starter would definately pay him starters money via a contract based on escalators/incentives which I believe he still has the legs to achieve.

    Then you mix in a couple of wild cards 1) the market is pretty limited in that area (see the link), 2) a owner that is willing to get a big name (he is a big name IMHO).
    Long story short, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he would get starters money.
    Chester Taylor is not a big name at all. He is a big name in these parts because we know how valuable he has been for our team. But as a whole, he is not a big name.

    There is a reason the writer of this link said that there is not much there in the RB department, because there isn't.

    Starters money does not = a contract based on incentives. A contract based on incentives is saying, "we are not sure that you can produce at a high level, but IF you do we will pay you."

    If it in fact becomes an uncapped year, then Chester's price goes up a little, but if it doesn't ... he has already had his big contract. Remember he got 4 years, $14.1 million from us. He won't even sniff that this offseason.
    Are you telling me that you didn't know who CT was before we got him?
    Cat gets accolades all the time related to the fact that he could be a starter on alot of teams.
    Thats why his last team couldn't keep him on backup money.

    Again, he is a aged back. That will impact what he gets, but it will be a hell of alot more than what we will offer him.


    With respect to incentives, are you trying to tell me AD's contract didn't have incentives? Every contract has em.
    What differs is what is gauranteed.

    Long story short, he isn't gonna get a AD like contract but he is gonna go get the biggest one he can as it will be his last payday.
    That contract will probably not be signed by the Wilfs because they will not pay him starters money again.
    Just because I knew who he was does not make him a "big name." I know the names of about 90% of the players in the NFL (as many on this site do) that does not qualify them as big names.

    His last team could not keep him on backup money because he was 27 and hitting his prime ... that simply is not the case anymore.

    Of course a lot of contracts have incentives, my point is [size=10pt]he is NOT going to get much in guaranteed money because he is a 31-year-old running back[/size] coming off a the worst season of his career production wise (as this year is shaping out to be) and coming off back-to-back declining years.

    There is little doubt that he wants to get as much as he can. That might be from us, that might be from elsewhere. But it will NOT be as a starter.
    I will give you that, but I don't think he is coming off his worst year.
    He isn't lacking in production because of talent.
    Just reps, or the lack thereof.

    Again, that gets back to why I think he will get more money than you do.
    He has only really been worked as a starter for one year.
    Lots of wear and tear still on those 31 year old legs.
    He is a good pass blocker and can catch coming out of the backfield.

    It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
    In the end, he will garner more money someplace else than he will in MN.
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    Re: Unrestricted Free Agents In 2010

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    No one has mentioned my guy DT Aubrayo Franklin yet. I think he would be the perfect subsitute for Pat Williams.
    Sad to say I don't know much about him, maybe if he is a stud insert him instead of Wilfork!
    Franklin is actually a fantastic player. I don't think we would have to pay him that much and would be a nice replacement. 49ers would be dumb to let him walk away though.
    I saw him make a pretty sweet interception not too long ago. Think it was last week.

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    At the moment, I like the 49'ers defensive tackle Aubrayo Franklin.
    He's the perfect replacement for our belowed Pat Williams. Pat is getting up there in age, but Franklin is only 29 and is an excellent run stopper.

    I also like Ryan Clark of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He is an excellent safety and we could definitely need an upgrade in the secondary.

    I would also be happy if either Julius Peppers or Aaron Kampman was signed to replace Ray Edwards on the left side. Don't get me wrong, we don't really need an upgrade at LE because Edwards is doing a good job, but NFL is about getting the best players as possible. With Peppers or Kampman, Vikings will have 4 Pro Bowls on the defensive line alone.

    We already have the consistent and perhaps the best pass rushing DT in a 4-3 defensive scheme and arguably the best pass rushing right end in a 4-3 scheme. Imagine if we add arguably two of the best pass rushing left ends in a 4-3 scheme in the mix and we won't even have to blitz opposing teams
    LOL
    ;D

    Then there is Chester Taylor... I really don't want to lose this guy. I can always rely on Chester when Adrian Peterson goes down with an injury. Remember when Adrian went down late in the season in his rookie year? Chester stepped up and we won all 4 games without Adrian.
    I want to cross defensive ends of the list of possible free agent signing candidates after watching Ray Edwards back-to-back monster performances in the last couple of games.

    In the last two Vikings games, Ray Edwards has an amazing 4 sacks (the same as his season best), 8 quarterback hits, 8 solo tackles, one forced fumble and one recovered fumble.

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