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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

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    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.
    ??? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Did you even read his profile?

    Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
    Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
    lol, I already know he's played well on both sides of the line.

    But let's be real here, whoever drafts Long will most likely have him play the left tackle position. I mean, how many tackles that are drafted top 5 (which Jake Long will be) end up playing RT for their respected franchise. Not many. The only one I can thing off of the top of my head is Levi Brown to the Arizona Cardinals in the 2007 NFL Draft. And the only reason he's playing right tackle is because his QB, Matt Leinart, is left handed. (unusual blindside)

    My point is, tackles who are taken that high in the draft are expected to play the the hardest position on the offensive line, which is left tackle. (Orlando Pace, Johnathan Ogden, Walter Jones, etc.)
    So... why can't he play LT?
    ???
    lol, because we already have a LT and his name is Bryant Mckinnie.
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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

    "TimmyT" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "TimmyT" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
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    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.
    ??? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Did you even read his profile?

    Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
    Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
    lol, I already know he's played well on both sides of the line.

    But let's be real here, whoever drafts Long will most likely have him play the left tackle position. I mean, how many tackles that are drafted top 5 (which Jake Long will be) end up playing RT for their respected franchise. Not many. The only one I can thing off of the top of my head is Levi Brown to the Arizona Cardinals in the 2007 NFL Draft. And the only reason he's playing right tackle is because his QB, Matt Leinart, is left handed. (unusual blindside)

    My point is, tackles who are taken that high in the draft are expected to play the the hardest position on the offensive line, which is left tackle. (Orlando Pace, Johnathan Ogden, Walter Jones, etc.)
    So... why can't he play LT?
    ???
    lol, because we already have a LT and his name is Bryant Mckinnie.
    I'm sorry I meant.... So... why can't he play RT?
    ???

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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

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    [quote author=TimmyT link=topic=39882.msg677145#msg677145 date=1195602050]
    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.
    ??? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Did you even read his profile?

    Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
    Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
    lol, I already know he's played well on both sides of the line.

    But let's be real here, whoever drafts Long will most likely have him play the left tackle position. I mean, how many tackles that are drafted top 5 (which Jake Long will be) end up playing RT for their respected franchise. Not many. The only one I can thing off of the top of my head is Levi Brown to the Arizona Cardinals in the 2007 NFL Draft. And the only reason he's playing right tackle is because his QB, Matt Leinart, is left handed. (unusual blindside)

    My point is, tackles who are taken that high in the draft are expected to play the the hardest position on the offensive line, which is left tackle. (Orlando Pace, Johnathan Ogden, Walter Jones, etc.)
    So... why can't he play LT?
    ???
    lol, because we already have a LT and his name is Bryant Mckinnie.
    I'm sorry I meant.... So... why can't he play RT?
    ???
    [/quote]

    lol, he can, but it's highly unlikely. The Vikings are going to have a top 10 pick. Tackles are not taken that high in the NFL Draft to play RT. I mean, don't get me wrong, we could obviously use a right tackle. Everyone knows the right side of our line is extremely suspect. But it's not even close to being our biggest need.

    So you can go ahead and scratch Jake Long off that list, my friend.
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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

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    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=39882.msg677148#msg677148 date=1195603648]
    [quote author=TimmyT link=topic=39882.msg677145#msg677145 date=1195602050]
    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.
    ??? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Did you even read his profile?

    Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
    Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
    lol, I already know he's played well on both sides of the line.

    But let's be real here, whoever drafts Long will most likely have him play the left tackle position. I mean, how many tackles that are drafted top 5 (which Jake Long will be) end up playing RT for their respected franchise. Not many. The only one I can thing off of the top of my head is Levi Brown to the Arizona Cardinals in the 2007 NFL Draft. And the only reason he's playing right tackle is because his QB, Matt Leinart, is left handed. (unusual blindside)

    My point is, tackles who are taken that high in the draft are expected to play the the hardest position on the offensive line, which is left tackle. (Orlando Pace, Johnathan Ogden, Walter Jones, etc.)
    So... why can't he play LT?
    ???
    lol, because we already have a LT and his name is Bryant Mckinnie.
    I'm sorry I meant.... So... why can't he play RT?
    ???
    [/quote]

    lol, he can, but it's highly unlikely. The Vikings are going to have a top 10 pick. Tackles are not taken that high in the NFL Draft to play RT. I mean, don't get me wrong, we could obviously use a right tackle. Everyone knows the right side of our line is extremely suspect. But it's not even close to being our biggest need.

    So you can go ahead and scratch Jake Long off that list, my friend.

    [/quote]

    Who should we take instead? The only one I would think about would be Antoine Cason. If we are not going to take a OL we might as well trade away the pick to get McNabb. It all starts at the line.

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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "TimmyT" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
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    [quote author=TimmyT link=topic=39882.msg677152#msg677152 date=1195604699]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=39882.msg677148#msg677148 date=1195603648]
    [quote author=TimmyT link=topic=39882.msg677145#msg677145 date=1195602050]
    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.
    ??? I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Did you even read his profile?

    Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
    Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
    lol, I already know he's played well on both sides of the line.

    But let's be real here, whoever drafts Long will most likely have him play the left tackle position. I mean, how many tackles that are drafted top 5 (which Jake Long will be) end up playing RT for their respected franchise. Not many. The only one I can thing off of the top of my head is Levi Brown to the Arizona Cardinals in the 2007 NFL Draft. And the only reason he's playing right tackle is because his QB, Matt Leinart, is left handed. (unusual blindside)

    My point is, tackles who are taken that high in the draft are expected to play the the hardest position on the offensive line, which is left tackle. (Orlando Pace, Johnathan Ogden, Walter Jones, etc.)
    So... why can't he play LT?
    ???
    lol, because we already have a LT and his name is Bryant Mckinnie.
    I'm sorry I meant.... So... why can't he play RT?
    ???
    [/quote]

    lol, he can, but it's highly unlikely. The Vikings are going to have a top 10 pick. Tackles are not taken that high in the NFL Draft to play RT. I mean, don't get me wrong, we could obviously use a right tackle. Everyone knows the right side of our line is extremely suspect. But it's not even close to being our biggest need.

    So you can go ahead and scratch Jake Long off that list, my friend.

    [/quote]

    Who should we take instead? The only one I would think about would be Antoine Cason. If we are not going to take a OL we might as well trade away the pick to get McNabb. It all starts at the line.
    [/quote]

    Top 10 Pick already?
    No hope of winning 7 or 8 games then?
    Cuz we will have to have 6 wins or less to get a top 10 pick this year.
    Look at all the other teams with worse records this year.
    I'm still holding out hope that we could get a playoff spot at 8-8 in a weak NFC.
    If we do end up with a top 10 pick, the no brainer is a safety or QB.
    We can't win another game if we expect to get a shot at Long.


    Our best bet is to draft Kenny Phillps or Brian Brohm if he falls alla Brady Quinn.
    If we intend to run this horrible defensive scheme next season, we need some beastly safeties, not two washed up veterans desperately trying to cling to their Super Bowl glory days.
    Brohm would bring us an NFL ready QB w/ NFL pedigree.
    I think we can feel OK about the Rams not taking a QB, and if Beck performs well this season, then Miami may take a pass at QB also.
    If he falls past Atlanta, we'd have a shot at taking him because I think some teams may take Woodson or Ryan instead because they have been hyped up this season and Brohm's team has not lived up to expectaions.
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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

    I don't understand why everyone thinks we should draft Jake Long.

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he'll end up being a pretty good offensive lineman. But, the Vikings already have a LT. And yeah, I know what your thinking. "Oh, why don't we just move Bryant Mckinnie to RT?" Sorry, but that's not a good idea. Our offense line has gelled too well this season to start making any dramatic changes.
    Okay this keeps just getting me really angry. Listen a tackle or guard even can play both sides alright. period. Drastic change my jiggliy butt. I played O-line. If you ever played football you would at least know it is barely any change at all. Nothing of any significance. The only change is learning the plays differently. And its not too hard to McKinnie could more then easily play right tackle. Jake Long could just as easily play right side as left side. The only difference is if it is Traps or Power right he does what he did on Traps or Power Left. Its inane to think its SOOOO hard to make that switch. In fact most levels of football expect their players to be able to play every position on the O-line. The footwork isn't enough change. You just move that right foot back instead of left. A wide receiver that plays on the left side can't play on the right. Thats just silly. What your having him play slot. Your crazy man
    : Just believe me. it doesn't matter if you play left or right you can play both. restrain yourself from saying we can't draft so and so because he's a left tackle. They changed Levi Brown to a Right Tackle he didn't explode now did he. hmmm... I wonder how he did it.



    Well heres my guys

    27. Matt Ryan - QB - 6'4" 220 lbs.- Boston College
    Strong armed senior quarterback has continued to impress over his final season.
    Need I say anything I've been talking about this guy before he started this year. Hmmm. Great defense. #1 running back in the leasgue. Great O-line. Whats missing? Quarterback.
    6. Kenny Phillips* - FS - 6'1" 205 lbs.- Miami
    This smooth and athletic safety has the talent to declare for the draft early.
    If we don't take a Qb first round this guy is probably the guy we take. Sharper's old. I still like my guy from Beethune Cook breaking records in the 4th round. He'll be a ball hawk when Sharpers old enough to retire or become not amazing
    66. Colt Brennan - QB - 6'3" 210 lbs.- Hawaii
    Record-setting senior passer needs to shine in major All-star game to move up any higher.
    This guy will be something. Hawaii is not great competition conference but I dont like to punish a guy for doing great against bad competition but wll be a great pick up second round. Amazing. I think he'll need time on the bench though and I dont think we can take a project.
    32. Frank Okam - DT - 6'5" 320 lbs. - Texas
    Rugged senior tackle is a fine inside run stuffer with the ability to push the pocket.
    He's my early second round late first guy. He's amazing man. If we dont take a D Tackle in the first this guy or Red Bryant as my second round beast. Great to succeed Phat Pat.
    19. Gosder Cherilus - OT - 6'6" 320 lbs.- Boston College
    Massive athletic left tackle has been a key blocker on QB Matt Ryan's blind side.
    mid first early second guy. Read above. I like this guy. GREAT PASS BLOCKER. For all you who blame the O-line there will be no weakness in that line when we got McKinnie and Cherilus on the two sides with Birk and Hutch in the middle. Later round Center who can play guard who can succeed Birk would make much dominance in the O-line.


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    Re: Top 100 NFL Prospects

    Andre Woodson would make me have a good day. He's an SEC player (says a lot more than the Big Ten or ACC) and beating #1 LSU says a lot too. QB is a spot we have no/little talent or stability and Andre Woodson is the best fit among senior QB's. Of course, when Tim Tebow graduates...... ;D
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    lol, he can, but it's highly unlikely. The Vikings are going to have a top 10 pick. Tackles are not taken that high in the NFL Draft to play RT. I mean, don't get me wrong, we could obviously use a right tackle. Everyone knows the right side of our line is extremely suspect. But it's not even close to being our biggest need.

    So you can go ahead and scratch Jake Long off that list, my friend.
    You don't draft for need in the Top 10, that's what gave us Troy Williamson...

    If you get the option to draft a blue-chip tackle who is the best player available and you need a tackle (Even if it isn't your biggest "need") you do it.
    Just because LT protect QB's blindside doesn't mean you don't need a quality RT as much as a LT.


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    I'm rolling with Marcus Henry as next years Colston.


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    I'm rolling with Marcus Henry as next years Colston.
    How could he be compared to Marques Colston when he is the #1 WR on the #2 team in the nation? Colston came from Hofstra alot different then the #2 team in the country.

    But I do agree he is overlooked and could be a pretty good player.

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