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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "Vikes_King" wrote:
    no huge loss, would have liked to seen him here tho

    if nothing else than for depth and competition in training camp
    CBs: Winfield, Griffin, Devonte Edward, Gordon, .... who am I missing?
    Whitaker?

    There are greater needs to fill before CB.

    IF any DBs are drafted, it will likely be a safety to groom to replace Sharper if one of the rookies don't develop to do so.

    No great loss in missing out on Harper.
    Probably called him in to appease the new DC.

    When we stop to think about it, most folks behavior isn't perplexing after all !

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    "Purplexing" wrote:
    "Vikes_King" wrote:
    no huge loss, would have liked to seen him here tho

    if nothing else than for depth and competition in training camp
    CBs: Winfield, Griffin, Devonte Edward, Gordon, .... who am I missing?
    Whitaker?

    There are greater needs to fill before CB.

    IF any DBs are drafted, it will likely be a safety to groom to replace Sharper if one of the rookies don't develop to do so.

    No great loss in missing out on Harper.
    Probably called him in to appease the new DC.

    we could use another DB..edwards missed all of last year, and the season before made only 1 play that made everybody assume he was good..edwards is still a huge ??..gordon seems to be more of a KR than anything, but played okay at the end of the season (didnt stand out as bad)..whitaker puts us at a terrible disadvantage whenever hes on the field because hes just flat out awful, especially on special teams

    ive said it before and il say it again..having a bunch of players at one position is not depth, its quality that determines what kind of depth you have..we may have 5 corners, but if only 2 of them are good, then what does that do?..we surely need another decent player at that spot

    you are right though, corner isnt our biggest problem, and theres other things that need to be addressed first..harper wouldve been a great pickup tho
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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "Deronn" wrote:
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    AHH THE SKY IS FALLING. THE SKY IS FALLING. FIRE CHILDRESS. WE WILL NEVER WIN A GAME WITHOUT HIM.
    Ahh ha! So you're saying we will win EVERY game WITH HIM! That's the kind of positive outlook that we need more of!
    ;D

    I agree that he's got a lot to prove this year. I'm not ready to toss him out yet, but I do need to see some results this year to stay on board his ship.
    By him i meant harper.

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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    Ahhhh, this free agency is going to my head.

    I live in Indianapolis. Harper is decent. See him play every week. Pro bowl? Not by a long shot. I guess Im just mad that we are sitting here now with the most cap of any team by far, and our biggest name signing is a 4th string WR...
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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

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    Ahhhh, this free agency is going to my head.

    I live in Indianapolis. Harper is decent. See him play every week. Pro bowl? Not by a long shot. I guess Im just mad that we are sitting here now with the most cap of any team by far, and our biggest name signing is a 4th string WR...
    Build through the draft. Examples in recent years-

    Redskins- Big spending owner, bad teams.
    Raiders- Big spending owner, bad teams.

    On the other hand look at the

    Jets- Pickups of Mangold and Ferguson pushed them over the top as a team, both coming in the draft.

    Saints- One FA pickup, albeit a big one, in combination with Colston and Bush in the draft made for a killer combination.

    It's a common misperception that building through FA works. Take this for example.

    here's an article about last years offseason winners and losers.


    2006

    THE WINNERS

    1. Washington Redskins: Owner Daniel Snyder once again opened the bottomless vault and brought in the most impressive free agent class in years, which includes two former 49ers starters. Safety Adam Archuleta, defensive ends Andre Carter and Kenny Writerdsf, tight end Christian Fauria, and wide receivers Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randle El all will either start immediately or see significant playing time. Lloyd, a restricted free agent, was actually acquired in a trade for two draft picks, but he essentially was a free-agent pickup as the Redskins intended to strike a deal with the 49ers before signing him to an offer sheet.

    2. Cleveland Browns: The coup was landing defensive tackle Willie McGinest, but the signing with the most immediate impact is likely offensive lineman LeCharles Bentley, who lived in relative obscurity in New Orleans. Bentley was the second-best offensive lineman available and the Browns shored up a glaring need. They also landed receiver Joe Jurevicious – a FA the 49ers were interested in – tackle Kevin Shaffer, nose tackle Ted Washington and punter Dave Zastudil.

    3. Arizona Cardinals: The 49ers’ divisional rival won the Edgerrin James lottery and that puts them near the top of the list in itself. James gives the Cardinals a legitimate back for the first time since…Larry Centers? The offense is scary good with James, wide receivers Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald and golden boy quarterback Matt Leinart. They also added depth at wide receiver by signing Troy Walters away from New England. With the addition of a superb draft class, the Cardinals have had arguably the best offseason of any NFL team.

    4. Houston Texans: Everyone in South Texas already knows what most of the league and its fans may just now be catching up to: The Texans had a great offseason. They added depth in the linebacker corps with Sam Cowart, shored up the defensive line with Anthony Cook and gave quarterback David Carr more weapons by signing fullback Jameel Cook and tight end Jeb Putzier. But the biggest move came when they signed Eric Moulds, who will provide the Texans with a legitimate No. 2 receiver threat for the first time ever. They also picked up running back Antowain Smith late in the free agency period.

    5. Dallas Cowboys: They are grudgingly listed here because they had the guts, or perhaps idiocy, to sign former 49er Terrell Owens. There is no doubting Owens’ ability on the field. There is also no doubting his inability in being a good teammate, as many former and current 49ers could tell you. The Cowboys finally filled their rotating kicker position by landing Mike Vanderjagt. The signing of offensive tackle Jason Fabini could be the key move of the offseason.

    THE LOSERS

    1. New England Patriots: Perhaps no team in the league was hit harder in free agency than the Patriots. They lost one of the best kickers ever in Adam Vinatieri, a stalwart defensive lineman in Willie McGinest and one of the most underrated receivers in the league in David Givens. Losses of receivers Andre Davis and Tim Dwight aren’t quite as significant, but do put a dent in the depth at the wide receiver position. Much like their conference rival the Colts, their biggest acquisition was a kicker (Martin Gramatica).

    2. Chicago Bears: The Bears had one of the worst offenses in the league last year and what did they do to address their needs in free agency? They added Brian Griese, yet another quarterback with a mostly unproven track record, to essentially compete with Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman for the starting job. Their only other slightly significant addition was adding cornerback Dante Wesley.

    3. Indianapolis Colts: Any time your biggest acquisition is a kicker (albeit one of the best in league history in Adam Vinatieri), you probably didn’t have too much to get excited about. The Colts were never really in the running in resigning Edgerrin James, who left town for Arizona, so that makes them a free agency loser alone. They also lost receiver Troy Walters and kicker Mike Vanderjagt, for better or for worse.

    4. New York Jets: Not much has gone right for the Jets recently. They lost two stalwarts along the two lines in John Abraham and Kevin Mawae. Granted, Abraham was dealt in a trade and wasn’t lost in free agency, but the Jets had no intentions of keeping him. Mawae was a rock along the Jets line for years and found a new home on Tennessee. Signing defensive end Kimo von Oelhoffen was a nice pick up, though.

    5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Their free-agent signing list largely reads as a “Who’s That?” of NFL players. Linebacker Nick Greisen, wide receiver Randy Hymes and cornerback Brian Williams were all signed to add depth, mostly. Their biggest splash came in signing offensive tackle Mike Williams away from Buffalo. The former first-round pick out of the University of Texas was a major disappointment in Buffalo and will be looking to rejuvenate

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    Overall record of the winners 29-41

    Overall record of the losers 53-25
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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "PurpleMafia" wrote:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2797700

    This baffles me how we are sitting back and letting these type of guys go with the money we have.
    It seems like you think that the Vikings can just call a FA on the phone and he'll sign with us, no questions asked.

    Why do you think they need this guy?

    Starters @ CB:
    Antoine Winfield & Ced Griffin
    3rd CB:
    Devonte Edwards
    4th/5th CBs:
    Charles Gordon, Ronyell Whitaker

    In addition, Dwight Smith can (and has in the NFL) play CB.

    Just don't see the point in paying big bucks for someone who will be, at best, their 3rd CB - didn't the Vikings just jetison an overpaid 3rd CB?

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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "PurpleMafia" wrote:
    Ahhhh, this free agency is going to my head.

    I live in Indianapolis. Harper is decent. See him play every week. Pro bowl? Not by a long shot. I guess Im just mad that we are sitting here now with the most cap of any team by far, and our biggest name signing is a 4th string WR...
    The Packers have more available cap space than the Vikings right now.

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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

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    Overall record of the winners 29-41

    Overall record of the losers 53-25
    Stop confusing people with TRUTH, PPE.


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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Overall record of the winners 29-41

    Overall record of the losers 53-25
    Stop confusing people with TRUTH, PPE.


    =Z=
    Why do you think they need this guy?

    Starters @ CB:
    Antoine Winfield & Ced Griffin
    3rd CB:
    Devonte Edwards
    4th/5th CBs:
    Charles Gordon, Ronyell Whitaker

    In addition, Dwight Smith can (and has in the NFL) play CB.
    I think it goes back to a post I made in one of the other 50 threads.......

    Its a name he recognizes, therefore we need him no matter what our player/personnel look like at that depth.

    I like it when someone blames Childress. Its like it is a secret code for "My opinion is worthless because I don't know what I'm talking about"
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    Re: Titans snag CB Harper from Super Bowl champs

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I think it goes back to a post I made in one of the other 50 threads.......

    Its a name he recognizes, therefore we need him no matter what our player/personnel look like at that depth.
    Exactly.
    Just like the people screaming for the Vikings to have gotten either the Wife-Beater (McMichael) or Mr. Drops/DUI Bust (Stevens) rather than someone they've never heard of before (Shiancoe).

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