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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    They are both spoiled little bitches. Tiki had a alot of yard last year(1600+) but only scored 3 touchdowns and then he announces his retirement midseason, what a bitch move. Now Tiki is in television and is airing the teams dirty laundry for money, I guarentee that in 5 years tiki is not on any major network regularly, he sucks.
    LOL!
    I do believe that we gave the ball to Hoard in goaline situations and not Smith, right?
    Jacobs had 9.
    You cannot complain about a RB giving you 1600+ and only scoring 5 times, that is ridiculous.
    Watch more football please.
    Oh snap, Tiki had 5 TD's anyways.
    Andre Johnson led NFL in receptions and only had 5 TD's.
    Please do not be a stat pussy, it's lame as fuck.
    Football is played on the field, not the stat book or Madden.

    I think the news of him retiring leaked and he did not want it to get out.
    You cannot blame to collapse of that team on him.
    If they were a focused team then that would not have mattered mentally.


    As far as network TV, like Zeus said "they love the guy" and they always have.
    He is fresh, well spoken, and good looking (not that I am gay or anything).

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    I live in Delaware, but spend much of the work week in New York.
    I don't necessarily have a problem with the retirement "announcement" Tiki made last year, and agree (for the most part) that the media blew this one out of proportion.
    That said, I am not qualified to speak on the impact to the Team of the announcement, however, my opinion is that these guys have jobs to do, regardless of the announcement.
    If my boss announces that he is retiring at the end of the year, I certainly don't have any leeway not to do my job.
    The retirement thing should have been a minimal distraction.
    Certainly Tiki left his heart on the field, every game...pre, or post retirement announcement.

    Now, calling out the coach's play calling, style, demeanor, or the like is where Tiki stepped over the line, not just once.
    As a fan of the game, I applaud Eli for going down the path he did, even though it might have been a little awkwardly done.

    Tiki is custom made for TV.
    Take some time to read about how this guy has addressed challenges in his life; he is a pretty impressive individual, whether you like him or not.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "tb04512" wrote:
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    Just as Jerome Bettis spoke about conversations with Cowher last year after HE became an NFL analyst, now Tiki Barber is doing the same thing - HIS FUCKING JOB.
    It's laughable for you to expect that he would not comment on the Giants if asked.
    That's what they PAY HIM TO DO.
    its not his job to rip on his teammates/coaches... a person with some decency would have said yeah we had our differences just like everybody does.. instead of being an asshole and ripping your qb saying it was comical him talking at a offensive team meeting
    Ummm - the Giants aren't his teammates/coaches.
    They are his EX-teammates and EX-coaches.

    And, since the actual article linked above only has a couple of words from Barber's comments (made during halftime of a GIANTS game where he was serving as an analyst), I fail to see how you can say he was "ripping" him since you don't have Tiki's full comments at your disposal.

    Nevertheless - it's not Tiki's job to play patty-cake with his EX-teammates and EX-coaches.
    It's his job to give commentary.
    If he just happens to have some inside information on the Giants, you believe he should hold it in because of some sort of loyalty to the past?

    Give me a fucking break.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    They are both spoiled little bitches. Tiki had a alot of yard last year(1600+) but only scored 3 touchdowns and then he announces his retirement midseason, what a beeyatch move. Now Tiki is in television and is airing the teams dirty laundry for money, I guarentee that in 5 years tiki is not on any major network regularly, he sucks.
    LOL!
    I do believe that we gave the ball to Hoard in goaline situations and not Smith, right?
    Jacobs had 9.
    You cannot complain about a RB giving you 1600+ and only scoring 5 times, that is ridiculous.
    Watch more football please.
    Oh snap, Tiki had 5 TD's anyways.
    Andre Johnson led NFL in receptions and only had 5 TD's.
    Please do not be a stat "meow", it's lame as floop.
    Football is played on the field, not the stat book or Madden.

    I think the news of him retiring leaked and he did not want it to get out.
    You cannot blame to collapse of that team on him.
    If they were a focused team then that would not have mattered mentally.


    As far as network TV, like Zeus said "they love the guy" and they always have.
    He is fresh, well spoken, and good looking (not that I am *** or anything).
    1600 yards is a great season.
    As we all know alot of teams are using more than one back on a regular basis.
    Plus, they have a back they bring in on 3rd downs and goal line situations.

    Julius Jones had 1084 yards rushing and 4 TD's for the Cowboys last year.
    Marion Barber III had 654 yards rushing and 14 TD's.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

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    Also, regarding the retirement thing.
    Most NFL players announce their retirement at the END of a season...not preseason, or the middle of the season.
    It is the noble thing to do.
    Most NFL players don't play in the media cauldron that is NYC.
    Tiki announced his retirement at that point ONLY after weeks and weeks of distracting stories in the NYC press.
    Do you believe it would have been better for the press to keep hounding Tiki and other Giants for the whole season, rather than concentrating on the on-the-field product?

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    3 touchdowns would have made him a legend on our team last year.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    Also, regarding the retirement thing.
    Most NFL players announce their retirement at the END of a season...not preseason, or the middle of the season.
    It is the noble thing to do.
    Most NFL players don't play in the media cauldron that is NYC.
    Tiki announced his retirement at that point ONLY after weeks and weeks of distracting stories in the NYC press.
    Do you believe it would have been better for the press to keep hounding Tiki and other Giants for the whole season, rather than concentrating on the on-the-field product?

    =Z=
    I don't think the media asking if one of your teammates is retiring would be all that distracting.
    A simple "I don't know" would answer it pretty effectively.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    Also, regarding the retirement thing.
    Most NFL players announce their retirement at the END of a season...not preseason, or the middle of the season.
    It is the noble thing to do.
    Most NFL players don't play in the media cauldron that is NYC.
    Tiki announced his retirement at that point ONLY after weeks and weeks of distracting stories in the NYC press.
    Do you believe it would have been better for the press to keep hounding Tiki and other Giants for the whole season, rather than concentrating on the on-the-field product?
    I don't think the media asking if one of your teammates is retiring would be all that distracting.
    A simple "I don't know" would answer it pretty effectively.
    Oh, come on, man!
    It wasn't just one media member asking one question.
    It was constant attention every week, multiple questions at all press conferences from multiple outlets.
    It was a distraction and that was cited by Barber at the time he made the announcement.

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    Also, regarding the retirement thing.
    Most NFL players announce their retirement at the END of a season...not preseason, or the middle of the season.
    It is the noble thing to do.
    Most NFL players don't play in the media cauldron that is NYC.
    Tiki announced his retirement at that point ONLY after weeks and weeks of distracting stories in the NYC press.
    Do you believe it would have been better for the press to keep hounding Tiki and other Giants for the whole season, rather than concentrating on the on-the-field product?
    I don't think the media asking if one of your teammates is retiring would be all that distracting.
    A simple "I don't know" would answer it pretty effectively.
    Oh, come on, man!
    It wasn't just one media member asking one question.
    It was constant attention every week, multiple questions at all press conferences from multiple outlets.
    It was a distraction and that was cited by Barber at the time he made the announcement.

    =Z=
    And instead of announcing his retirement he couldn't have just said, "There will be no further comment on my retirement status until the Giants season is over, absolutely no comment, your wasting our time by asking, blah blah blah..."
    something along those lines?

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    Re: Tiki Barber ignites Eli Manning's fire

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    And instead of announcing his retirement he couldn't have just said, "There will be no further comment on my retirement status until the Giants season is over, absolutely no comment, your wasting our time by asking, blah blah blah..."
    something along those lines?
    Come on, BH!
    Saying that is the media equivalent of dumping a chum into a school of sharks!

    And, just for the record - Tiki announced that he would retire at the end of the 2006 season following the 10/29 game with Tampa Bay.
    In the games that followed, he recorded 1084 yards rushing, all 5 of his rushing TDs in 2006 and a 234-yard game against the Redskins in Week 16.

    Seems to me as if he made the announcement and then the weight of the issue was lifted from his shoulders and he performed like the All-Pro he was.

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