Thinking outside the box on the NFL combine

**gregair13** · 02-25-2009, 12:43 AM

"jessejames09" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Absolutely love the crew NFLN has working the combine this year.
The dynamic that Gruden and Mooch bring to the analysis of a Mayock is outstanding.
;D

Gruden is pretty good, and I like them having Charles Davis there to keep Mayock in line.

Gruden and Mooch were amazing together. I wish we got more of them. They should come coach our team...

**AngloVike** · 02-25-2009, 04:12 AM

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?
;D

**Marrdro** · 02-25-2009, 09:06 AM

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

**AngloVike** · 02-25-2009, 09:36 AM

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

ok I'd rather we looked at DT and possibly CB via FA if possible and look to OT early in the draft. Course if we cannot address them in FA then I'd rate CB higher than DT. Are you saying DT because of the Williamses upcoming court case or for the fact that PWill needs to be replaced in the next couple of years?

**carta4eva** · 02-25-2009, 10:00 AM

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

Alphonso Smith= Winfield with less tackling prowess but more play making/ ball hawking ability... think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie from last year's draft...

**Marrdro** · 02-25-2009, 10:02 AM

"carta4eva" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

Alphonso Smith= Winfield with less tackling prowess but more play making/ ball hawking ability... think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie from last year's draft...

Thanks.
Seems to be a glut of possible candidates that can come in and help.
Again, we might go after one, just not in the first is my guess.

**jessejames09** · 02-25-2009, 10:05 AM

"carta4eva" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

Alphonso Smith= Winfield with less tackling prowess but more play making/ ball hawking ability... think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie from last year's draft...

DRC is a ballhawk who brings very little physically. More of a man coverage guy than a cover 2 guy. I think Winfield is the better comparison.

**Marrdro** · 02-25-2009, 10:09 AM

"jessejames09" wrote:

"carta4eva" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

Alphonso Smith= Winfield with less tackling prowess but more play making/ ball hawking ability... think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie from last year's draft...

DRC is a ballhawk who brings very little physically. More of a man coverage guy than a cover 2 guy. I think Winfield is the better comparison.

Thanks JJ.
That is what I miss this time of year.
I just don't follow college ball so I don't know the players and haven't seen them play.

**bleedpurple** · 02-25-2009, 02:05 PM

"Marrdro" wrote:

"jessejames09" wrote:

"carta4eva" wrote:

"Marrdro" wrote:

"AngloVike" wrote:

[quote author=Marrdro link=topic=50665.msg911329#msg911329 date=1235499522]
Very refreshing to see the Vets helping out like that.

Can't wait to hear his DB breakdowns this year.

why- do you think we need to look at DBs this year ?

;D

Of course I think we should look at DB's.
My first mock draft this year (1 round) went like this.......

1. Detroit (0-16) Matt Stafford, QB
2. St. Louis (2-14) Michael Or, OT
3. Kansas City (2-14) Eugene Monroe, OT
4. Seattle (4-12) Michael Crabtree, WR
5. Cleveland (4-12) Aaron Curry, LB
6. Cincinnati (4-11-1) Everette Brown, DE
7. Oakland (5-11) Andre Smith, OT
8. Jacksonville (5-11) Malcom Jennings, CB
9. Green Bay (6-10) BJ, Raji, DT
10. San Francisco (7-9) Mark Sanchez, QB
11. Buffalo (7-9) Jeremy Maclin, WR
12. Denver (8-8) Rey Maualuga, LB
13. Washington (8-8) Jason Smith, OT
14. New Orleans (8-8) Vontae Davis, CB
15. Houston (8-8) Brian Orakpo, DE
16. San Diego (8-8) Knowshon Moreno, RB
17. New York Jets (9-7) Percy Harvin, WR
18. Chicago (9-7) Tyson Jackson, DE
19. Tampa Bay (9-7) Chris Wells, RB
20. Detroit - from Dallas (9-7) James Laurinaitis, LB
21. Philadelphia (9-6-1) Brandon Pettigrew, TE
22. Minnesota (10-6) DJ Moore, CB
23. New England (11-5) Alphonso Smith, CB
24. Atlanta (11-5) Brian Cushing, LB
25. Miami (11-5) Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
26. Baltimore (11-5) Clay Matthews, OLB
27. Indianapolis (12-4) Peria Jerry, DT
28. Philadelphia- from Carolina (12-4) Lesean McCoy, RB
29. New York Giants (12-4) Hakeem Nicks, WR
30. Tennessee (13-3) Alex Mack, C
31. Arizona (9-7) Larry Englsh, DE/OLB
32. Pittsburgh (12-4) Max Unger, C

I think we have a bigger need at DT as well as a sneaky fealing they are trying to bring in a VET CB during FA which will negate using our first on a CB when the draft is deep with them.

Alphonso Smith= Winfield with less tackling prowess but more play making/ ball hawking ability... think Dominique Rodgers Cromartie from last year's draft...

DRC is a ballhawk who brings very little physically. More of a man coverage guy than a cover 2 guy. I think Winfield is the better comparison.

Thanks JJ.
That is what I miss this time of year.
I just don't follow college ball so I don't know the players and haven't seen them play.
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I think we're all catching up Marr...