09-07-2012, 06:50 AM #111
You gotta remember, stats don't mean anything, unless they can be used against Jackson, Jackson didn't win the job over VY, he was merely brought in to replace VY, but Matt did win over TJ, despite the fact Flynn he was brought in to replace him.
1 month into the 2007 season when Jackson was named the starter was more than enough time, enough starts & patience to put up with him, despite having a 8-4 record, yet we have to be more patient & give 16 more starts & time to Ponder or any other QB we might have drafted, who had 2-1/2 months/10 games already with 1 win to show for it. What I find funnier than the fact that they feel the need for several times more starts than another QB, is that some are denying they ever said it.
We also have to remember that in Jackson's 8 wins in 2007, AD carried him, even though in 2 of those wins, AD never played, in a 3rd win, AD rushed 14 times for a total of 3 yards with no TD. In a 4th win, AD had 1TD in a game we won with 24 points. AD did however lead us into victory on 2 occasions that year in 2 games where he scored at least 3 TD's including the 296 yd rushing game. This is a prime example of where now stats do matter.
Bottom line, as was mentioned many times when Frerotte & Favre were QBing, all that matters is wins & losses.
But wins don't matter if TJ is behind center, unless AD scores a boat load of TD's, then they do.
Oh and as far as losses are concerned, they do matter if TJ is behind center, but apparently don't really matter if Ponder or another one of our QB's is behind center, as long as they "failed forward".
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09-07-2012, 08:26 AM #112
09-07-2012, 10:06 AM #113
There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
09-07-2012, 10:42 AM #114
Look back at Jackson's stats...now look at what happened during the games. In almost every case where Jackson has a win or a mildly impressive game, the Defense or the running game lead the way. And almost never does Jackson ever take over a game and win it without one or both of the other elements being present.
In short, Jackson rode the Running game and the Defense.
Now, look at Ponder. His performances aren't cushioned by great running games or stellar defensive performances. They're just HIM.
And, while I agree that Ponder isn't likely to turn into Rodgers, I happen to feel that Ponder's style of play is more aggressive than Jackson's. He LEADS where Jackson managed.
09-07-2012, 10:44 AM #115
09-07-2012, 12:38 PM #116
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Why are we still talking about TJack? For the love of God, can't we talk about someone who wore purple a little more recently?
Like Favre or McNabb or something?Zeus wrote:
When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?
09-07-2012, 01:24 PM #117
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