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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

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    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102875
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102843
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102393
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102876
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102875
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102843
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102393
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1102882
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102876
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102875
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102843
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102393
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.
    Says who? I myself have admitted Jackson has played poorly. Difference is, when I [we] used some of those points, it was an excuse. When the Favre fans used those points they were valid, legitimate bonafide reasons.

    However, when Jackson has played good, fans who hate him claim other players or the defense bailed him out, rather than give him any credit.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102884
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1102882
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102876
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102875
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102843
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102393
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.
    Says who? I myself have admitted Jackson has played poorly. Difference is, when I [we] used some of those points, it was an excuse. When the Favre fans used those points they were valid, legitimate bonafide reasons.

    However, when Jackson has played good, fans who hate him claim other players or the defense bailed him out, rather than give him any credit.
    Jackson has played well one and a half times.

    Cards game, and half of the Lions game.

    but according to most T-Jack-backers, the Falcons, Giants and eagles games were also acceptable TJ performances (which they weren't)

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    *chuckles* He players for a different flooping team... a team that won't content even if our own bag of mixed nuts does make the post season... why don't we spend more time looking at who's still wearing the Purple and Gold and less time bickering about the Seachickens?

    Good golly, some of you just need to join a debate club... go argue for arguments sake there.
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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1102886
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102884
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1102882
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102876
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102875
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102843
    Quote Originally Posted by "midgensa" #1102393
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102388
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102367
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1102362
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102349
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1102273
    Quote Originally Posted by "singersp" #1102254
    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.
    Says who? I myself have admitted Jackson has played poorly. Difference is, when I [we] used some of those points, it was an excuse. When the Favre fans used those points they were valid, legitimate bonafide reasons.

    However, when Jackson has played good, fans who hate him claim other players or the defense bailed him out, rather than give him any credit.
    Jackson has played well one and a half times.

    Cards game, and half of the Lions game.

    but according to most T-Jack-backers, the Falcons, Giants and eagles games were also acceptable TJ performances (which they weren't)
    I don't think anyone anywhere has ever said anything good about Tjacks performance against the eagles. At most some claim the rest of the team played like crap too.
    I think most games have some good and some bad. Whether we are talking Favre against the Saints or Tjack vs the Falcons.

    From the game recap on NFL.com.
    Tarvaris Jackson played very well in his second straight start for the Vikings (9-6), who could have clinched their first division title since 2000. Jackson threw for 233 yards and two scores and rushed for 76 yards, but also had a fumble at the Atlanta 16.
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122103/2008/REG16/falcons@vikings#tab:recap/recap-channels:cat-post-recap-full-story

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

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    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.
    Says who? I myself have admitted Jackson has played poorly. Difference is, when I [we] used some of those points, it was an excuse. When the Favre fans used those points they were valid, legitimate bonafide reasons.

    However, when Jackson has played good, fans who hate him claim other players or the defense bailed him out, rather than give him any credit.
    Jackson has played well one and a half times.

    Cards game, and half of the Lions game.

    but according to most T-Jack-backers, the Falcons, Giants and eagles games were also acceptable TJ performances (which they weren't)
    I think most games have some good and some bad. Whether we are talking Favre against the Saints or Tjack vs the Falcons.

    From the game recap on NFL.com.
    Tarvaris Jackson played very well in his second straight start for the Vikings (9-6), who could have clinched their first division title since 2000. Jackson threw for 233 yards and two scores and rushed for 76 yards, but also had a fumble at the Atlanta 16.
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122103/2008/REG16/falcons@vikings#tab:recap/recap-channels:cat-post-recap-full-story
    On paper, Looks alright.

    Watching it was same old TJ. Pressures on to clinch a playoff spot, and TJ crumbles. He can't stand in a pocket, he can't make reads. He scrambles around with the ball in one hand down by his waist, which is why he fumbles.

    Was it entirely his fault? Absolutely not. But the guy fumbled 3 times, two were lost.

    this play hurt alot thougH: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d80d83ff0/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-The-flipping-Falcon

    went through about four vikings hands.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

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    Quote Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1102895
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    Looks like Caine & 13 others are wrong....

    Seattle Seahawks name Tarvaris Jackson starting QB

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-07-30/seattle-seahawks-name-tarvaris-jackson-starting-qb
    How am I wrong? Look at the #46 post in this thread (Mine) and you'll see the following quote:

    Yup, he got a job because Seattle was dumb enough to sign Bevell as the OC.

    Carroll installed Jackson as the starter right away because he wanted to build "continuity". Also, did you see who the Seachickens have as QB's? Hell, I would be the starter there....

    That doesn't mean he'll do well.
    Did he compete for this job? Nope...just like every other time he's been named starter, it was gifted to him.

    Caine
    This is how....

    Poll: If it\'s down to these two, who will start in Seattle?
    Charlie Whitehurst 14
    58.3%
    Tarvaris Jackson 10 41.7%
    I'm referring to the 14 that answered "Whitehurst" to the poll of which you are easily one.

    It's irrelevant to the poll whether that position was won or gifted.
    its only irrelevant if you ignore the opening post to understand the context:

    "So if it does happen to come down to Charlie Whitehurst and Tarvaris Fox Jackson III battling it out for the starting job for the Seahawks, which one do you think wins it? "


    They never battled it out as was prefaced in the initial post so the results are void. I even asked for clarification in an early post and he reinforced that the poll was about a competition not a gifted spot as this appeaes to be.
    I was referring to the poll question as it was asked, not the poll question as it was interpreted along with or in addition to another post in this thread.

    Like I said, gifted or not, Jackson has been named the starter, not Whitehurst
    Yup. According to the verbiage of the question, I am wrong.

    However, I'm pretty sure that the results of the season will show Carrol and Bevell wrong...

    B)

    Caine
    Oh no Caine ... you are fully aware of how it works.

    It is the offensive line's fault, the WR's fault, the coaches fault or the punter's fault.

    But it is NEVER ... and I mean EEEEEEEEVVVVVVER ... T-Jack's fault.
    You must have Favre confused with Jackson.
    No one made excuses for Favre...he got crucified. Only Teflon Jackson was showered with excuses.

    Caine
    Your memory that short it only goes back a few months & not from the time he got here?

    I believe you your self made a post that said similarly "If he only had receivers to throw to".

    There were excuses made on receivers not getting open.

    There were excuses made about receivers dropping balls, especially those that touched outstretched arms.

    There were excuses made on the front line not protecting the QB.

    There were excuses made on him being rusty due to lack of training/preparation.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made because of his ankle, his shoulder, his tendonitis.

    There were excuses made on him not having gelled with the team yet.

    There were excuses made on play calling.

    There were excuses made on receivers zigging when they should have zagged.

    Your memory being refreshed yet?
    Those points were all made, but in the end, most Favre supporters will readily admit that Favre played like garbage in 2010. It wasn't a good situation all-around, but Favre himself didn't help matters much.

    Tarvaris on the other hand can do no wrong.
    Says who? I myself have admitted Jackson has played poorly. Difference is, when I [we] used some of those points, it was an excuse. When the Favre fans used those points they were valid, legitimate bonafide reasons.

    However, when Jackson has played good, fans who hate him claim other players or the defense bailed him out, rather than give him any credit.
    Jackson has played well one and a half times.

    Cards game, and half of the Lions game.

    but according to most T-Jack-backers, the Falcons, Giants and eagles games were also acceptable TJ performances (which they weren't)
    I think most games have some good and some bad. Whether we are talking Favre against the Saints or Tjack vs the Falcons.

    From the game recap on NFL.com.
    Tarvaris Jackson played very well in his second straight start for the Vikings (9-6), who could have clinched their first division title since 2000. Jackson threw for 233 yards and two scores and rushed for 76 yards, but also had a fumble at the Atlanta 16.
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122103/2008/REG16/falcons@vikings#tab:recap/recap-channels:cat-post-recap-full-story
    On paper, Looks alright.

    Watching it was same old TJ. Pressures on to clinch a playoff spot, and TJ crumbles. He can't stand in a pocket, he can't make reads. He scrambles around with the ball in one hand down by his waist, which is why he fumbles.

    Was it entirely his fault? Absolutely not. But the guy fumbled 3 times, two were lost.

    this play hurt alot thougH: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d80d83ff0/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-The-flipping-Falcon

    went through about four vikings hands.
    Like I said, areas of grey. To me that was the best game I have seen from Tjack. The big difference was he made play after play. The TD pass in the first to answer the Falcons score, completing 11 straight passes in the second half, or the fourth QTR TD drive, or the multiple times he turned a negative play into a positive with his legs.
    IMHO he played well despite the turnovers, as did Favre against the saints.

    Also, and my memory aint too good, but looking at the stats it appears not every game in 07 was completely bad(though some certainly were).

    http://www.nfl.com/player/tarvarisjackson/2495863/gamelogs?season=2007

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