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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1103270
    Tarvaris sees the ice cream truck



    Off in the distance, the sound of an ice cream truck can be heard. Tarvaris Jackson, who had nothing better to do while sitting on the sidelines, shrieked with excitement while bouncing up and down. On Thursday morning, head coach Pete Carroll imposed a No Ice Cream Zone to prevent further incidents. Wouldn't want Jackson to forget the play and run off the field chasing the truck,
    Give the kid the ball when he bounces up and down he'll throw it

    Rusty Jackson

    Jackson, who Carroll has already named the starting quarterback, admitted he showed a little bit of rust in his first practice ....The biggest problem Jackson had in his first practice snaps from a new center. Jackson fumbled a few snaps, including one sequence when he fumbled a snap, then a handoff, then another snap on three straight plays.
    :whistle:
    Sounds like he's already in mid season form....

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

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    You Did What Now?!

    Too bad I missed all the excitement while goofing off in a small German village on vacation. After catching up on all the activity, I've been shocked by a few free-agency and personnel moves. Here are the biggest head-scratchers so far.

    Jackson anointed in Seattle
    Are you kiddin' me with Tarvaris Jackson? Are we talking about the same guy? What Pete Carroll sees in the former Viking is anyone's guess, because it sure can't be Fran Tarkenton. New and old teammate Sidney Rice thinks Jackson was never unleashed in Minnesota. Yes, that is correct. But it was only because Jackson couldn't make any of the throws. It wasn't anything major.

    All I could think about was 2008, when former Vikings coach Brad Childress completely reined in his offense in an effort to not lose to the Eagles in the wild-card round. The Vikings took zero chances on offense, with no vertical strikes. T-Jax went 15 of 35. For everyone who thought Childress was asleep at the wheel, maybe it's because the car he was driving was a Ford Escort.
    I still find it funny that everyone points to that game as the only reason why no one should even look at TJ.

    First Playoff game. OL that was playing like a bunch of turnstyles. Defense that couldn't even stop a screen play.

    And yet, given all that, the team was still in it until late in the 4th Qtr.

    LOL.
    They look at that game because it succinctly sums up Jackson's career in one shot - when he has to carry the team, he folds.

    Caine
    a point TJ supporters have yet to effectively defend.
    Define "when he has to carry the team, he folds".
    Tjack made the big plays down the stretch of the giants game. As you know, on the 2nd to last drive in the fourth qtr he threw 54 yard TD to make it a 1 score game.
    On the final drive Tjack completed 4 of 5 passes to get into field goal range and get the win.
    I'm curious how you will twist "comeback win for the division title" to "folding".

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122807/2008/REG17/giants@vikings#tab:analyze
    Oh, you mean that "come back" win against the Giants SCRUBS?

    The Giants had nothing to play for, and it showed. Meanwhile, Jackson and the offense sputtered and misfired all game long until the Giants were so far down their depth chart that they were suiting up fans and putting them in...

    Not really a good example of a "pro Jackson" moment...

    Caine
    Additionally, the defender tripped on his own feet and fell down early on that 4th quarter TD play leaving Berrian W I D E open and yet the pass was still grossly under thrown. I could have made that throw. It's also disappointing that in a must win situation against backup scrubs we couldn't set Longwell up better than a 50 some yard field goal attempt. Fortunately everything worked out so that we could move on and get embarrassed by the Eagles the following week.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "kevoncox" #1103250
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103220
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1103177
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    You Did What Now?!

    Too bad I missed all the excitement while goofing off in a small German village on vacation. After catching up on all the activity, I've been shocked by a few free-agency and personnel moves. Here are the biggest head-scratchers so far.

    Jackson anointed in Seattle
    Are you kiddin' me with Tarvaris Jackson? Are we talking about the same guy? What Pete Carroll sees in the former Viking is anyone's guess, because it sure can't be Fran Tarkenton. New and old teammate Sidney Rice thinks Jackson was never unleashed in Minnesota. Yes, that is correct. But it was only because Jackson couldn't make any of the throws. It wasn't anything major.

    All I could think about was 2008, when former Vikings coach Brad Childress completely reined in his offense in an effort to not lose to the Eagles in the wild-card round. The Vikings took zero chances on offense, with no vertical strikes. T-Jax went 15 of 35. For everyone who thought Childress was asleep at the wheel, maybe it's because the car he was driving was a Ford Escort.
    I still find it funny that everyone points to that game as the only reason why no one should even look at TJ.

    First Playoff game. OL that was playing like a bunch of turnstyles. Defense that couldn't even stop a screen play.

    And yet, given all that, the team was still in it until late in the 4th Qtr.

    LOL.
    They look at that game because it succinctly sums up Jackson's career in one shot - when he has to carry the team, he folds.

    Caine
    a point TJ supporters have yet to effectively defend.
    Defend. Are we in a court of law? LOL, seriously.

    Look, TJ didn't look that bad nor did he look that great. Truth of the matter is he look just as good as the rest of the team, case in point, your beloved Birk and his turnstyle protections. Dude got owned so bad he snarted to make simple rookie mistakes like snapping the ball at the ground. How about Whinny basically getting sucked into the run on the screen play that put them ahead?

    Those are little flaws that you have failed to "Defend" my friend.
    You point out our stars lone mistake that game but defend the countless mistakes TJ made in that one game.

    It's the same thing you did to the Colts lost from 2007 or 2008. Youblame the defense for letting Manning score 3 times in 7 mins but you don't point out that the shity offense, led by TJ himself...was unable to make a first down in those 7 mins. The damn defense had an int with 3 mins to go to seal the win and TJ couldn't do ish with it. Marr, i think you are an underdog kind guy, you like to root for the Rudy's of the world, which i admire. However, you ignore the plain and simple truth sometimes. TJ in Minn...was not a good Qb. TJ in Seattle, maybe.
    So who's to blame? TJ? He put the ball in the hands of a TE in the endzone (after getting them down there by the way) and the TE dropped the ball.

    Again, I don't only stick up for TJ. My point has always been that it is a team game and not one guy can be blamed/or get the credit for wins and losses.

    By the way, I didn't see you saying "Great Post" when I was hacking on TJ. don't forget, I didn't even want him on the team and really didn't start supporting him until late in 08/early 09.
    Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/josdin00/Vikings/Marrdro_sig.jpg

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103335

    Again, I don't only stick up for TJ. My point has always been that it is a team game and not one guy can be blamed/or get the credit for wins and losses.
    yet you have no problem crucifying Favre for throwing a pick in the NFCCG which didn't even make the game unwinnable for us.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103336
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103335

    Again, I don't only stick up for TJ. My point has always been that it is a team game and not one guy can be blamed/or get the credit for wins and losses.
    yet you have no problem crucifying Favre for throwing a pick in the NFCCG which didn't even make the game unwinnable for us.
    And the winner is... i_bleed_purple. This post by Marrdro has "hypocrite" written all over it.

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "gamecocksbaseball31" #1103367
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103336
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103335

    Again, I don't only stick up for TJ. My point has always been that it is a team game and not one guy can be blamed/or get the credit for wins and losses.
    yet you have no problem crucifying Favre for throwing a pick in the NFCCG which didn't even make the game unwinnable for us.
    And the winner is... i_bleed_purple. This post by Marrdro has "hypocrite" written all over it.
    In 2009 Favre had little to do with our success. Our receivers made Favre who he was, except of course in the NFCG - that was all Favre's fault for losing.

    In 2010 our team was terrible, mostly because Brett Favre was at the helm. For reasons unkown our receivers couldn't carry Favre like they had the year before, even after Rice returned to the team.

    :P

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "BloodyHorns82" #1103370
    Quote Originally Posted by "gamecocksbaseball31" #1103367
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103336
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103335

    Again, I don't only stick up for TJ. My point has always been that it is a team game and not one guy can be blamed/or get the credit for wins and losses.
    yet you have no problem crucifying Favre for throwing a pick in the NFCCG which didn't even make the game unwinnable for us.
    And the winner is... i_bleed_purple. This post by Marrdro has "hypocrite" written all over it.
    In 2009 Favre had little to do with our success. Our receivers made Favre who he was, except of course in the NFCG - that was all Favre's fault for losing.

    In 2010 our team was terrible, mostly because Brett Favre was at the helm. For reasons unkown our receivers couldn't carry Favre like they had the year before, even after Rice returned to the team.

    :P
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1103327
    Quote Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1103263
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1103177
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    You Did What Now?!

    Too bad I missed all the excitement while goofing off in a small German village on vacation. After catching up on all the activity, I've been shocked by a few free-agency and personnel moves. Here are the biggest head-scratchers so far.

    Jackson anointed in Seattle
    Are you kiddin' me with Tarvaris Jackson? Are we talking about the same guy? What Pete Carroll sees in the former Viking is anyone's guess, because it sure can't be Fran Tarkenton. New and old teammate Sidney Rice thinks Jackson was never unleashed in Minnesota. Yes, that is correct. But it was only because Jackson couldn't make any of the throws. It wasn't anything major.

    All I could think about was 2008, when former Vikings coach Brad Childress completely reined in his offense in an effort to not lose to the Eagles in the wild-card round. The Vikings took zero chances on offense, with no vertical strikes. T-Jax went 15 of 35. For everyone who thought Childress was asleep at the wheel, maybe it's because the car he was driving was a Ford Escort.
    I still find it funny that everyone points to that game as the only reason why no one should even look at TJ.

    First Playoff game. OL that was playing like a bunch of turnstyles. Defense that couldn't even stop a screen play.

    And yet, given all that, the team was still in it until late in the 4th Qtr.

    LOL.
    They look at that game because it succinctly sums up Jackson's career in one shot - when he has to carry the team, he folds.

    Caine
    a point TJ supporters have yet to effectively defend.
    Define "when he has to carry the team, he folds".
    Tjack made the big plays down the stretch of the giants game. As you know, on the 2nd to last drive in the fourth qtr he threw 54 yard TD to make it a 1 score game.
    On the final drive Tjack completed 4 of 5 passes to get into field goal range and get the win.
    I'm curious how you will twist "comeback win for the division title" to "folding".

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122807/2008/REG17/giants@vikings#tab:analyze
    Oh, you mean that "come back" win against the Giants SCRUBS?

    The Giants had nothing to play for, and it showed. Meanwhile, Jackson and the offense sputtered and misfired all game long until the Giants were so far down their depth chart that they were suiting up fans and putting them in...

    Not really a good example of a "pro Jackson" moment...

    Caine
    Did he fold?

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    Re: T-Jack vs Whitehurst

    Quote Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1103395
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1103327
    Quote Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1103263
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103180
    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1103177
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103086
    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1103079
    You Did What Now?!

    Too bad I missed all the excitement while goofing off in a small German village on vacation. After catching up on all the activity, I've been shocked by a few free-agency and personnel moves. Here are the biggest head-scratchers so far.

    Jackson anointed in Seattle
    Are you kiddin' me with Tarvaris Jackson? Are we talking about the same guy? What Pete Carroll sees in the former Viking is anyone's guess, because it sure can't be Fran Tarkenton. New and old teammate Sidney Rice thinks Jackson was never unleashed in Minnesota. Yes, that is correct. But it was only because Jackson couldn't make any of the throws. It wasn't anything major.

    All I could think about was 2008, when former Vikings coach Brad Childress completely reined in his offense in an effort to not lose to the Eagles in the wild-card round. The Vikings took zero chances on offense, with no vertical strikes. T-Jax went 15 of 35. For everyone who thought Childress was asleep at the wheel, maybe it's because the car he was driving was a Ford Escort.
    I still find it funny that everyone points to that game as the only reason why no one should even look at TJ.

    First Playoff game. OL that was playing like a bunch of turnstyles. Defense that couldn't even stop a screen play.

    And yet, given all that, the team was still in it until late in the 4th Qtr.

    LOL.
    They look at that game because it succinctly sums up Jackson's career in one shot - when he has to carry the team, he folds.

    Caine
    a point TJ supporters have yet to effectively defend.
    Define "when he has to carry the team, he folds".
    Tjack made the big plays down the stretch of the giants game. As you know, on the 2nd to last drive in the fourth qtr he threw 54 yard TD to make it a 1 score game.
    On the final drive Tjack completed 4 of 5 passes to get into field goal range and get the win.
    I'm curious how you will twist "comeback win for the division title" to "folding".

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008122807/2008/REG17/giants@vikings#tab:analyze
    Oh, you mean that "come back" win against the Giants SCRUBS?

    The Giants had nothing to play for, and it showed. Meanwhile, Jackson and the offense sputtered and misfired all game long until the Giants were so far down their depth chart that they were suiting up fans and putting them in...

    Not really a good example of a "pro Jackson" moment...

    Caine
    Did he fold?
    No, he won with a Jack high card. (which beat out the Giants '10' card, Carr and company)

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