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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "Warp" wrote:
    Yeah i have to admit that so far the packers have had a better draft than us ops:
    Well, they should...they had much higher picks than us! But we would have still outshone them if not for the trade with the Steelers to move up to draft Tavaris...we are most likely gonna regret that move for years to come. We could have had him at our regular spot and still got another player...we basically gave away the pick we got for Burleson.

    DUMB MOVE BY THE VIKINGS!!!
    It's a little early to claim that we're going to regret picking Jackson for years to come, don't you think. Despite your 7 million posts on this board, I still think that the Vike's scouting staff has quite a bit more insight into which players will be the best additions to our team.

    According to the staff in the "war room" there were rumours circulating that Jackson may not have been there when the Vikes picked. They obviously had this kid targeted for a while and didn't want to take a chance that their guy would get away. I'll trust their judgment in this area, since it is their full time job.
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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    "Warp" wrote:
    Yeah i have to admit that so far the packers have had a better draft than us ops:
    FYI, dis is from an ESPN article by John Clayton entitled, Day One Winners and Losers.
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    The losers

    1. Matt Leinart, QB, Arizona: Had he turned pro after his junior season, Leinart might have been the first pick in the 2005 draft. Even now, most would considered him a higher-rated player than 49ers quarterback Alex Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft. Financially, this is a disaster for Leinart. Smith received $20 million in guarantees. Leinart goes into a slot that last year paid $13.5 million -- total -- over the five-year contract. Because he's a quarterback, Leinart will get a premium, and he could get around $6 million to $8 million in guarantees. Green told Leinart that he was getting a gift from heaven in getting a quarterback this good at 10. While Leinart says he doesn't regret coming back for his senior year at USC, he wasn't able to cash in with his extra year in college.

    2. Reggie Bush, RB, New Orleans: Give Bush credit for being a good sport. He congratulated defensive end Mario Williams for beating him out for the No. 1 pick in the draft. He didn't blast the Texans for not taking him with the first pick. Still, Bush was clearly a big loser in this draft. With all the stories circulating about his family's living accommodations, Bush clearly was in spin control heading into draft week. He needed to agree to a deal to make him the No. 1 pick. When the Texans offered an 8 percent increase over Alex Smith, the top pick in 2005, Bush should have shown more willingness to take it. Williams grabbed the Texans' offer like he was taking down a quarterback and registered a big sack. He got $26.5 million in guarantees while Bush will be lucky to get $20 million from the Saints. He needed to be the No. 1 pick in the draft, and he fumbled it by not getting a deal done.

    3. Buffalo Bills: The Bills were in a great spot at No. 8. They had at least two teams -- Denver and Minnesota -- calling up offering draft choices to move up. Those teams were looking for quarterbacks. The Bills could have worked a deal with the Eagles, who were considering a move to No. 8 to take a defensive tackle. Taking a safety, Donte Whitner, at No. 8 instead of accepting one of those deals just wasn't a good value. Sure, maybe they weren't getting offers that matched the trade value chart, but wouldn't it have been better to move down and get anything extra. They would still have been able to get Whitner. The Bills feared losing Whitner to the Lions, who didn't get Michael Huff at No. 9. That wasn't going to happen because the Lions were taking linebacker Ernie Sims if they didn't get Huff, who went to the Raiders. The Bills went a little too conservative.

    4. Green Bay Packers: They didn't get great value for Javon Walker, only getting a second-round choice instead of two seconds, which they were demanding Friday. While A.J. Hawk was a great choice to help the defense, the Packers didn't do much to help Brett Favre. They didn't get tight end Vernon Davis, but that's OK. Hawk rated higher on most draft boards than Davis. The Packers had a decent second-round for the future in getting tackle Daryn Colledge and wide receiver Greg Jennings, who might take some time to make impact. But this is Favre's last year, and he is committed to making the best out of the season. As it has been the entire offseason, the Packers haven't seized the moment.
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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    The pack has a thing for Texas A&M
    Look at all the gambling at WR.

    On D, they aren't worried about the NFC North passing all over them! Very few DBs taken for them.

    1 5 Hawk, A.J. OLB 6-1 247 Ohio State
    2 47 Colledge, Daryn OT 6-4 298 Boise State
    2 52 Jennings, Greg WR 5-11 196 Western Michigan
    3 67 Hodge, Abdul ILB 6-0 235 Iowa
    3 75 Spitz, Jason C 6-3 304 Louisville
    4 104 Rodgers, Cory WR 6-0 187 Texas Christian
    4 115 Blackmon, Will WR 6-0 199 Boston College
    5 148 Martin, Ingle QB 6-2 219 Furman
    5 165 Moll, Tony OT 6-4 285 Nevada
    6 183 Jolly, Johnny DT 6-3 318 Texas A&M
    6 185 Culver, Tyrone FS 6-0 195 Fresno State
    7 253

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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    Jennings is the only WR they will probably try to develop as a #1 or #2

    Cory Rodgers is taking over Antonio Chatmans role(since he is no longer on the team). He'll probably be the #4 WR on some downs, etc. The main reason they got Cory Rodgers is because I believe he was the 3rd best kick/punt returner in the nation. Thats what he'll be doing for the Packers I think

    Will Blackmon is listed as a DB on the Packers website so my guess is that they will try to develop him as a CB in the future, who knows

    overall, I was quite happy with this draft. 2 big needs were addressed(LB and O-line, not to mention WR) then they added a bunch of other guys who should come in and compete in camp.

    by the way, I liked the Vikings 1st round pick. Chad Greenway is pretty damn good

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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    "Muggsy" wrote:
    "Warp" wrote:
    Yeah i have to admit that so far the packers have had a better draft than us ops:
    FYI, dis is from an ESPN article by John Clayton entitled, Day One Winners and Losers.
    =================================================
    The losers

    1. Matt Leinart, QB, Arizona: Had he turned pro after his junior season, Leinart might have been the first pick in the 2005 draft. Even now, most would considered him a higher-rated player than 49ers quarterback Alex Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft. Financially, this is a disaster for Leinart. Smith received $20 million in guarantees. Leinart goes into a slot that last year paid $13.5 million -- total -- over the five-year contract. Because he's a quarterback, Leinart will get a premium, and he could get around $6 million to $8 million in guarantees. Green told Leinart that he was getting a gift from heaven in getting a quarterback this good at 10. While Leinart says he doesn't regret coming back for his senior year at USC, he wasn't able to cash in with his extra year in college.

    2. Reggie Bush, RB, New Orleans: Give Bush credit for being a good sport. He congratulated defensive end Mario Williams for beating him out for the No. 1 pick in the draft. He didn't blast the Texans for not taking him with the first pick. Still, Bush was clearly a big loser in this draft. With all the stories circulating about his family's living accommodations, Bush clearly was in spin control heading into draft week. He needed to agree to a deal to make him the No. 1 pick. When the Texans offered an 8 percent increase over Alex Smith, the top pick in 2005, Bush should have shown more willingness to take it. Williams grabbed the Texans' offer like he was taking down a quarterback and registered a big sack. He got $26.5 million in guarantees while Bush will be lucky to get $20 million from the Saints. He needed to be the No. 1 pick in the draft, and he fumbled it by not getting a deal done.

    3. Buffalo Bills: The Bills were in a great spot at No. 8. They had at least two teams -- Denver and Minnesota -- calling up offering draft choices to move up. Those teams were looking for quarterbacks. The Bills could have worked a deal with the Eagles, who were considering a move to No. 8 to take a defensive tackle. Taking a safety, Donte Whitner, at No. 8 instead of accepting one of those deals just wasn't a good value. Sure, maybe they weren't getting offers that matched the trade value chart, but wouldn't it have been better to move down and get anything extra. They would still have been able to get Whitner. The Bills feared losing Whitner to the Lions, who didn't get Michael Huff at No. 9. That wasn't going to happen because the Lions were taking linebacker Ernie Sims if they didn't get Huff, who went to the Raiders. The Bills went a little too conservative.

    4. Green Bay Packers: They didn't get great value for Javon Walker, only getting a second-round choice instead of two seconds, which they were demanding Friday. While A.J. Hawk was a great choice to help the defense, the Packers didn't do much to help Brett Favre. They didn't get tight end Vernon Davis, but that's OK. Hawk rated higher on most draft boards than Davis. The Packers had a decent second-round for the future in getting tackle Daryn Colledge and wide receiver Greg Jennings, who might take some time to make impact. But this is Favre's last year, and he is committed to making the best out of the season. As it has been the entire offseason, the Packers haven't seized the moment.
    I read that, and that was some pretty bad journalism by John Clayton. Packers drafed a lot of good talent to help the TEAM. Mr. Clayton here thinks the Packers should have only drafted to help Brett Favre, which would have been dumb. No team drafts based on one player, they draft based on team needs

    I also like how he said the Niners were winners just based on the sole fact that they took Vernon Davis, clearly ignoring their other picks.

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    Re: Supprised by the packers

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    The pack has a thing for Texas A&M
    Look at all the gambling at WR.

    On D, they aren't worried about the NFC North passing all over them! Very few DBs taken for them.

    1 5 Hawk, A.J. OLB 6-1 247 Ohio State
    2 47 Colledge, Daryn OT 6-4 298 Boise State
    2 52 Jennings, Greg WR 5-11 196 Western Michigan
    3 67 Hodge, Abdul ILB 6-0 235 Iowa
    3 75 Spitz, Jason C 6-3 304 Louisville
    4 104 Rodgers, Cory WR 6-0 187 Texas Christian
    4 115 Blackmon, Will WR 6-0 199 Boston College
    5 148 Martin, Ingle QB 6-2 219 Furman
    5 165 Moll, Tony OT 6-4 285 Nevada
    6 183 Jolly, Johnny DT 6-3 318 Texas A&M
    6 185 Culver, Tyrone FS 6-0 195 Fresno State
    7 253

    Well, without Javon now, they need a lot of help at WR!

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    everyone knew hawk was a good pick, and they just drafted him cause everyone wanted hawk
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