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    Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)

    [size=13pt]Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)[/size]

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    As you might know, I recently did a three-part series of posts on the respective offseasons of Minnesota’s NFC North competition....

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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Li

    Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about?

    At left tackle, things were quite a bit closer in the battle between Chad Clifton (Packers) and Bryant McKinnie (Vikings). Funny thing about these two players: Both are considered to be amongst the best left tackles in the league, yet neither has been voted to a Pro Bowl (although Clifton has gone as an alternate). That doesn’t mean they’re not very good, it’s just something that strikes me as interesting.

    That being the case, I am giving the overall advantage to Clifton because, while both are very good in pass protection, Clifton is a better run blocker.
    McKinnie is a good pass protector but Clifton is a better run blocker?
    McKinnie is lousy at pass protection and a dominating run blocker...

    Also, Herrera did nothing to impress him?
    I think he's off his rocker in terms of analyzing the offensive lines.

    Other then that, the rest of the article wasn't bad.
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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)

    Except from the part where he says the Vikings are "only slightly" better at runningback and his questionable analyse of the offensive lines, this was an interesting read.
    I'm looking forward to part two (but it should be a little batter than the first)

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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Li

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about?

    At left tackle, things were quite a bit closer in the battle between Chad Clifton (Packers) and Bryant McKinnie (Vikings). Funny thing about these two players: Both are considered to be amongst the best left tackles in the league, yet neither has been voted to a Pro Bowl (although Clifton has gone as an alternate). That doesn’t mean they’re not very good, it’s just something that strikes me as interesting.

    That being the case, I am giving the overall advantage to Clifton because, while both are very good in pass protection, Clifton is a better run blocker.
    McKinnie is a good pass protector but Clifton is a better run blocker?
    McKinnie is lousy at pass protection and a dominating run blocker...

    Also, Herrera did nothing to impress him?
    I think he's off his rocker in terms of analyzing the offensive lines.

    Other then that, the rest of the article wasn't bad.
    I would have to agree.

    Maybe he missed the games were Herrera actually pulled, made his block and still stayed with our RB's going into the endzone.
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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Li

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about?

    At left tackle, things were quite a bit closer in the battle between Chad Clifton (Packers) and Bryant McKinnie (Vikings). Funny thing about these two players: Both are considered to be amongst the best left tackles in the league, yet neither has been voted to a Pro Bowl (although Clifton has gone as an alternate). That doesn’t mean they’re not very good, it’s just something that strikes me as interesting.

    That being the case, I am giving the overall advantage to Clifton because, while both are very good in pass protection, Clifton is a better run blocker.
    McKinnie is a good pass protector but Clifton is a better run blocker?
    McKinnie is lousy at pass protection and a dominating run blocker...

    Also, Herrera did nothing to impress him?
    I think he's off his rocker in terms of analyzing the offensive lines.

    Other then that, the rest of the article wasn't bad.
    I would have to agree.

    Maybe he missed the games were Herrera actually pulled, made his block and still stayed with our RB's going into the endzone.



    I'm going to disagree with his statement that, if TJ goes down and GF has to come in for any long period of time, we are done....This is total bullshit, and it wouldn't suprise me if the Vikings players rallyed around Gus and we went on one hell of a winning streak and yes, I believe in a big game like the SB, Gus's Veteran leadership could even shine thru and lead us to victory.......
    Advantage: Vikings big time.

    Who the hell does GB
    have for a backup?....It sure isn't Fumblepepper, not that he would do them any good either..... ;D


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    Anthony Herrera is one of my favorite Vikings right now. I love his aggressive play and really enjoy him pulling and getting those downfield blocks. He plays with fire and emotion, and is a smack talker out on the field, that fires up his linemates. What he lacks in finese he makes up for with a nasty attitude. I'll take five more just like him.

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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)

    "HEY" wrote:
    Except from the part where he says the Vikings are "only slightly" better at runningback and his questionable analyse of the offensive lines, this was an interesting read.
    I'm looking forward to part two (but it should be a little batter than the first)
    Yea, he went down a line of rationale that took him way off the mark on this one.
    If you're strictly judging the RB position, MN has a huge edge over GB.
    Grant had a good year and will probably be solid, but he is far from a great RB.
    I would take Chester over him.
    Talent-wise, MN is far superior at RB than GB.

    Don't know what his final analysis will reveal in terms of who has the better chance of winning the division.
    It's mostly aimed at how they matchup against each other talent-wise, which is only part of the equation.

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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)

    If I Had to draw my own comparison, it would go like this

    QB- Tie
    RB- Vikings
    FB- Packers
    TE- Packers
    LT- Packers
    LG- Vikings
    C - Vikings
    RG- Vikings
    RT- Packers
    WR1- Packers
    WR2- Packers

    Offense: Packers 6-4-1

    LDE- Packers
    RDE- Vikings
    DT1- Vikings
    DT2- Vikings
    CB1- VIkings
    CB2- Packers
    SLB- Packers
    (can't remember which one Hawk plays, but i'm matching up Hawk and Leber)
    MLB- Vikigns
    WLB- Vikings
    FS
    -
    Vikigns
    SS -
    Vikings

    Defense:
    Vikings 8-3

    P - Vikings
    K - Vikings

    Special Teams: Vikings 2-0

    Coaches

    DC
    -Vikings
    OC
    - Packers
    HC - Packers
    (not a chilly hater, but you need a good coach to make a team that young make a serious run at the superbowl like they did last year)

    Coaches Packers 2-1

    Overall
    VIkings 15-11-1

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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Li

    "NordicNed" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    Does this guy have any idea what he's talking about?

    At left tackle, things were quite a bit closer in the battle between Chad Clifton (Packers) and Bryant McKinnie (Vikings). Funny thing about these two players: Both are considered to be amongst the best left tackles in the league, yet neither has been voted to a Pro Bowl (although Clifton has gone as an alternate). That doesn’t mean they’re not very good, it’s just something that strikes me as interesting.

    That being the case, I am giving the overall advantage to Clifton because, while both are very good in pass protection, Clifton is a better run blocker.
    McKinnie is a good pass protector but Clifton is a better run blocker?
    McKinnie is lousy at pass protection and a dominating run blocker...

    Also, Herrera did nothing to impress him?
    I think he's off his rocker in terms of analyzing the offensive lines.

    Other then that, the rest of the article wasn't bad.
    I would have to agree.

    Maybe he missed the games were Herrera actually pulled, made his block and still stayed with our RB's going into the endzone.



    I'm going to disagree with his statement that, if TJ goes down and GF has to come in for any long period of time, we are done....This is total bullshit, and it wouldn't suprise me if the Vikings players rallyed around Gus and we went on one hell of a winning streak and yes, I believe in a big game like the SB, Gus's Veteran leadership could even shine thru and lead us to victory.......

    Advantage: Vikings big time.


    Who the hell does GB
    have for a backup?....It sure isn't Fumblepepper, not that he would do them any good either..... ;D
    I don't see how you can see Gus Frerotte any differently than Bollinger, Holcomb, or Johnson at this point in the offseason. All those guys had "veteran leadership" too. Last year, when TJ went down, we didn't rally, we went 0-4. They have the talent to offset our experience, making the QB position a tie.
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    Re: Stand up if you’re the best team in the NFC North (not so fast, Bears and Lions)

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    If I Had to draw my own comparison, it would go like this

    QB- Tie
    RB- Vikings
    FB- Packers
    TE- Packers
    LT- Packers
    LG- Vikings
    C - Vikings
    RG- Vikings
    RT- Packers
    WR1- Packers
    WR2- Packers

    Offense: Packers 6-4-1

    LDE- Packers
    RDE- Vikings
    DT1- Vikings
    DT2- Vikings
    CB1- VIkings
    CB2- Packers
    SLB- Packers
    (can't remember which one Hawk plays, but i'm matching up Hawk and Leber)
    MLB- Vikigns
    WLB- Vikings
    FS
    -
    Vikigns
    SS -

    Vikings

    Defense:
    Vikings 8-3

    P - Vikings
    K - Vikings

    Special Teams: Vikings 2-0

    Coaches

    DC
    -Vikings
    OC
    - Packers
    HC - Packers
    (not a chilly hater, but you need a good coach to make a team that young make a serious run at the superbowl like they did last year)

    Coaches Packers 2-1

    Overall
    VIkings 15-11-1
    Nice breakdown bleed.

    I gotta go with you on the coaches as well but I somehow wonder if I would feel the same if they had Lord Farvreeeeee running our offense instead of a young, raw kid like TJ who was basically learning on the fly.

    Again, nice breakdown.
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