Thread: Silverdome sells for ... less than a house

"jmcdon00" wrote:

That's nothing, the owners of the Metrodome can't rent it out for free.

LMAO!
I guess we should not snicker at Detroit!

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"C" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"jmcdon00" wrote:

[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=54254.msg1018606#msg1018606 date=1258577895]
[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=54254.msg1018599#msg1018599 date=1258577495]
That's nothing, the owners of the Metrodome can't rent it out for free.

lol,
;D Not exactly free though ...they let the Vikings play there but still take the concessions and other revenue.
Until the playoffs...than the Vikings get their piece.
It's a slap in the face, but like you I can see both sides stance.
It's mostly lose/lose.

The MSFC has their own balls in a vice.
They own a completely worthless piece of structure (see Silverdome, lol) and are grasping at straws to keep the Vikings playing there.
Once the Vikings leave it's game over.
Unless of course you can convince the mighty Minnesota MLS team to start paying rent.
LMFAO.
I here we also have a LaCrosse team...although It think they are much happy in the beautiful Xcel Energy venue.
Think the city of St. Paul and the state of Minnesota regret funding 130 million for that?

Good point, but on the flip side is the Gopher stadium which was half full on saturday. Each situation is different. Also the Excel was built in good times, no way anything will get done in this enviroment. Our taxes are going to go up and services down as is.

I agree each situation is different.

With that said I think the Vikings are just as deserving for a new stadium as the Wild and Twins.

Why the Gophers got a new stadium is beyond me.
They have a history of failure, and a small fan base.
They also play 2 less games, have no roof and the stadium is mostly useless outside of 5 games a year.

Endowment.

Just a guess.

The state doesn't care what the people want (even though it's the people's taxes)...they'd rather beef up their own interests (state university)...just my opinion, granted your answer was much better.
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Are you certain that the majority of citizens want a publicly funded stadium? Are you confident that it could pass a referendum?
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My comment was in reference to the Gophers stadium.
It didn't matter what the people wanted.
I only remember hearing VERY small voice even asking for a new Gophers stadium.


And my guess is a statewide vote would turn up "no" for publicly funded stadium but that is more so because of lack of education.
People think they will have to break bank to pay for a stadium.
As a Vikings fan the last thing I want is for them to leave.
If it means being like every other city/state in America and paying a small tax increase to keep them than I am 100% for it.
I was for teh Twins ballpark and I am for the Vikings.
Gophers was a joke...they have no fans.
Metrodome was empty when the Gophers played...new stadium is 1/2 empty.
Why they thought a new stadium would be a long term solution to fan turnout is beyond me.
At least the Vikings have their stadium 7/8's full on gameday.

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"C" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=54254.msg1018639#msg1018639 date=1258579736]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=54254.msg1018606#msg1018606 date=1258577895]
[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=54254.msg1018599#msg1018599 date=1258577495]
That's nothing, the owners of the Metrodome can't rent it out for free.

lol,
;D Not exactly free though ...they let the Vikings play there but still take the concessions and other revenue.
Until the playoffs...than the Vikings get their piece.
It's a slap in the face, but like you I can see both sides stance.
It's mostly lose/lose.

The MSFC has their own balls in a vice.
They own a completely worthless piece of structure (see Silverdome, lol) and are grasping at straws to keep the Vikings playing there.
Once the Vikings leave it's game over.
Unless of course you can convince the mighty Minnesota MLS team to start paying rent.
LMFAO.
I here we also have a LaCrosse team...although It think they are much happy in the beautiful Xcel Energy venue.
Think the city of St. Paul and the state of Minnesota regret funding 130 million for that?

Good point, but on the flip side is the Gopher stadium which was half full on saturday. Each situation is different. Also the Excel was built in good times, no way anything will get done in this enviroment. Our taxes are going to go up and services down as is.

I agree each situation is different.

With that said I think the Vikings are just as deserving for a new stadium as the Wild and Twins.

Why the Gophers got a new stadium is beyond me.
They have a history of failure, and a small fan base.
They also play 2 less games, have no roof and the stadium is mostly useless outside of 5 games a year.

Endowment.

Just a guess.

The state doesn't care what the people want (even though it's the people's taxes)...they'd rather beef up their own interests (state university)...just my opinion, granted your answer was much better.
[/quote]

Are you certain that the majority of citizens want a publicly funded stadium? Are you confident that it could pass a referendum?
[/quote]

My comment was in reference to the Gophers stadium.
It didn't matter what the people wanted.
I only remember hearing VERY small voice even asking for a new Gophers stadium.


And my guess is a statewide vote would turn up "no" for publicly funded stadium but that is more so because of lack of education.
People think they will have to break bank to pay for a stadium.
As a Vikings fan the last thing I want is for them to leave.
If it means being like every other city/state in America and paying a small tax increase to keep them than I am 100% for it.
I was for teh Twins ballpark and I am for the Vikings.
Gophers was a joke...they have no fans.
Metrodome was empty when the Gophers played...new stadium is 1/2 empty.
Why they thought a new stadium would be a long term solution to fan turnout is beyond me.
At least the Vikings have their stadium 7/8's full on gameday.
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OK I'll bite.

Educate me.

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

"C" wrote:

"BloodyHorns82" wrote:

[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=54254.msg1018639#msg1018639 date=1258579736]
[quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=54254.msg1018606#msg1018606 date=1258577895]
[quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=54254.msg1018599#msg1018599 date=1258577495]
That's nothing, the owners of the Metrodome can't rent it out for free.

lol,
;D Not exactly free though ...they let the Vikings play there but still take the concessions and other revenue.
Until the playoffs...than the Vikings get their piece.
It's a slap in the face, but like you I can see both sides stance.
It's mostly lose/lose.

The MSFC has their own balls in a vice.
They own a completely worthless piece of structure (see Silverdome, lol) and are grasping at straws to keep the Vikings playing there.
Once the Vikings leave it's game over.
Unless of course you can convince the mighty Minnesota MLS team to start paying rent.
LMFAO.
I here we also have a LaCrosse team...although It think they are much happy in the beautiful Xcel Energy venue.
Think the city of St. Paul and the state of Minnesota regret funding 130 million for that?

Good point, but on the flip side is the Gopher stadium which was half full on saturday. Each situation is different. Also the Excel was built in good times, no way anything will get done in this enviroment. Our taxes are going to go up and services down as is.

I agree each situation is different.

With that said I think the Vikings are just as deserving for a new stadium as the Wild and Twins.

Why the Gophers got a new stadium is beyond me.
They have a history of failure, and a small fan base.
They also play 2 less games, have no roof and the stadium is mostly useless outside of 5 games a year.

Endowment.

Just a guess.

The state doesn't care what the people want (even though it's the people's taxes)...they'd rather beef up their own interests (state university)...just my opinion, granted your answer was much better.
[/quote]

Are you certain that the majority of citizens want a publicly funded stadium? Are you confident that it could pass a referendum?
[/quote]

My comment was in reference to the Gophers stadium.
It didn't matter what the people wanted.
I only remember hearing VERY small voice even asking for a new Gophers stadium.


And my guess is a statewide vote would turn up "no" for publicly funded stadium but that is more so because of lack of education.
People think they will have to break bank to pay for a stadium.
As a Vikings fan the last thing I want is for them to leave.
If it means being like every other city/state in America and paying a small tax increase to keep them than I am 100% for it.
I was for teh Twins ballpark and I am for the Vikings.
Gophers was a joke...they have no fans.
Metrodome was empty when the Gophers played...new stadium is 1/2 empty.
Why they thought a new stadium would be a long term solution to fan turnout is beyond me.
At least the Vikings have their stadium 7/8's full on gameday.
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Dude, I totally respect your opinions and thoughts..
And almost all the time I agree with them..
But you are losing credibility really fast.

TCF was not half full..
In fact, believe it or not..
Every ticket this year was sold.
Every one.
The student section was the section that could have been looked at as 'half full', but even then that's a stretch.
Even at the last game, when it was cold and they were playing a loooooow team, that section was over half full.

At least have some facts before you complain about the Gophers getting a new stadium (and they got one because they had many private donators, they needed their own place ON CAMUS, and the Dome sucks..
Especially as a college venue).

"Zeus" wrote:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/11/17/news...uyer/index.htm

[size=12pt]Silverdome sells for ... less than a house[/size]
Unidentified Toronto-based real estate company buys Pontiac stadium for $583,000 - a fraction of the $55.7 million it cost to build.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- An unidentified Canadian real estate company was the winning bidder for the Silverdome, snatching it up for a mere fraction of its original value.

A Toronto-based family-owned company bid $583,000 for the under-used stadium on Monday, which is currently owned by the City of Pontiac, Mich., according to auctioneer Williams & Williams.

The company plans to refurbish the Silverdome into a stadium for men's Major League Soccer and women's professional soccer teams, said the auctioneer. While the stadium was the former home of the National Foodball League's Detroit Lions, it also played host to the World Cup in 1994, when Brazil beat Italy in a knuckle-biter that ended in a penalty shootout.

The auctioneer Williams & Williams, based in Tulsa, Okla., said it will not identify the buyer "until the final details are worked out and the sale closes."

=Z=

Maybe that's where the Wilf's will move the Vikings?
Hey, at least the Vikings would stay in the NFC North..