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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

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    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    That's my vote.
    I'm willing to bet it's the scheme.
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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    Of course it's the scheme

    But that doesn't take away from the fact that we will believe he is better then Tyrell

    And did not want him to walk

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    "C" wrote:
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    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    So if we have 1 player that doesn't fit the scheme and 10 that do...you suggest we still change the scheme?
    Or are you grasping again to discredit Childress?

    This scheme may limit what a S can and cannot do regarding coverage and INTs...but it sure as hell doesn't excuse them from the missed tackles.
    Players learn to tackle at 6 years old.

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
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    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    So if we have 1 player that doesn't fit the scheme and 10 that do...you suggest we still change the scheme?
    Or are you grasping again to discredit Childress?

    This scheme may limit what a S can and cannot do regarding coverage and INTs...but it sure as hell doesn't excuse them from the missed tackles.
    Players learn to tackle at 6 years old.
    All I'm saying is that it's pretty obvious our coaches simply cannot scheme while using our players strength.

    Besides, no one on our defense is having a particularly good season other than Jared Allen.
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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
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    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    So if we have 1 player that doesn't fit the scheme and 10 that do...you suggest we still change the scheme?
    Or are you grasping again to discredit Childress?

    This scheme may limit what a S can and cannot do regarding coverage and INTs...but it sure as hell doesn't excuse them from the missed tackles.
    Players learn to tackle at 6 years old.
    Yeah ... Sharper's tendency to be a ball hawk did not bother me too much in coverage like it did some. I was a lot more bothered by his knack for being in the wrong lanes and missing tackles.

    Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and we probably could use him with the way Tyrell is playing. And I actually wanted them to keep him around, but I am not going to act like I thought it was a horrible decision to let him go.

    When the Packers decided to part with him it was for the same reason we did. He does what he wants, how he wants, and if you can't deal with it, you need to let him go.

    He is pretty good at doing what he wants though, and if you can fit it in, then by all means he plays well. But give the Saints another year or so of him missing tackles (which he is doing if you have watchd) and not being in the right lanes and when the picks die down they will be calling for his head too.

    If he keeps up the picks and obviously the TDs, he will have a ton of fans, just like he did here for a couple of seasons, but once he stops getting those, and they will definitely slow down ... his poor tackling and missed lane assignments will start to stick out.

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    "C" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    So if we have 1 player that doesn't fit the scheme and 10 that do...you suggest we still change the scheme?
    Or are you grasping again to discredit Childress?

    This scheme may limit what a S can and cannot do regarding coverage and INTs...but it sure as hell doesn't excuse them from the missed tackles.
    Players learn to tackle at 6 years old.
    All I'm saying is that it's pretty obvious our coaches simply cannot scheme while using our players strength.

    Besides, no one on our defense is having a particularly good season other than Jared Allen.
    I want to put in a vote for Kevin Williams.
    I think that guy has looked awesome this year, seems like his best year in awhile.


    Also I think Cedric Griffin has looked pretty good.
    My opinion is that he took a major step up this year (so far) into a very solid starting CB.

    Linebackers and safeties haven't been as good as advertised though.
    And Pat Williams has stood out the past few games, but was quite early in the season.
    It's a team game and when half of your defense forgets how to tackle and where to go over the offseason it doesn't help.
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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

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    [quote author=V link=topic=53933.msg1014072#msg1014072 date=1257433130]
    A lot of us were criticized for saying that Tyrell could not fill Sharper's shoes. Looks like we were right.
    I dunno.
    According to PPO, he's missing tackles and not making picks.
    Seems like Sharper's shoes fit him to a T.

    =Z=
    Makes you think... maybe it's the scheme.

    I keep hearing people say good coaches use their players' strength to their advantage. Apparently, we couldn't do that with Sharper, who is having an All-Pro year. Why would we be able to do it with Tyrell?
    So if we have 1 player that doesn't fit the scheme and 10 that do...you suggest we still change the scheme?
    Or are you grasping again to discredit Childress?

    This scheme may limit what a S can and cannot do regarding coverage and INTs...but it sure as hell doesn't excuse them from the missed tackles.
    Players learn to tackle at 6 years old.
    All I'm saying is that it's pretty obvious our coaches simply cannot scheme while using our players strength.

    Besides, no one on our defense is having a particularly good season other than Jared Allen.
    I want to put in a vote for Kevin Williams.
    I think that guy has looked awesome this year, seems like his best year in awhile.


    Also I think Cedric Griffin has looked pretty good.
    My opinion is that he took a major step up this year (so far) into a very solid starting CB.

    Linebackers and safeties haven't been as good as advertised though.
    And Pat Williams has stood out the past few games, but was quite early in the season.
    It's a team game and when half of your defense forgets how to tackle and where to go over the offseason it doesn't help.
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    Nice to see someone giving kudos to Griffin. I think he has actually looked EXCELLENT this year and is really hitting hard and making plays on the ball.

    I agree with the Williams sentiment too.

    I really hope the bye is a chance for our safeties and our LBs to get back on the same page. Our LBs are FAR too talented to looks as bad as they do on a regular basis.

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    I didn't see this in here so I thought I would throw it in.

    From the National Football Post

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...on-report.html

    As the midway point of the 2009 season begins to sneak up on us, let’s take a look back and hand out some hardware for the best — and worst — of the season’s first half.

    MVP: Darren Sharper, Saints
    Defensive Player of the Year: Darren Sharper, Saints

    Can Sharper take home two awards in one season? Seven interceptions and three TDs through seven games -- he has the numbers right now.

    Runner-up: Jared Allen, Vikings
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

    Has a safety ever won it?

    If Sharper gets another TD or 2 or he will be up in the running.. Dudes ballin right now

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    Re: Sharper looking sharp as ever at age 33

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    Has a safety ever won it?

    If Sharper gets another TD or 2 or he will be up in the running.. Dudes ballin right now
    Won MVP? No ... won defensive player of the year? Yes.

    There have only been TWO defensive players to win MVP ... Alan Page and Lawrence Taylor (one kicker two, Mark Moseley)

    As for Defensive Player of the Year ... Safeties have won 4 times: Dick Anderson in '73, Kenny Easley in '84, Ed Reed in '04 and Bob Sanders in '07.

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