Rookie cap, 17 games, hair cut... What do you think?

**gagarr** · 05-20-2008, 07:01 PM

Recent things discussed on NFL live:

After Ryan's record setting deal, what do you think about a rookie salary cap?

So the owners can get more revenue, is a 17 game season a good thing?

Long hair sticking out of the helmet, should it be banned?

IMO,
* Salary cap only for 1st rounders

* I think 4 pre-season games is too much... as for regular season, the more the merrier

* I think players are starting to use the long hair to show off, be distinctive.
It's also not technically fair as an offensive skill players (RB, WR, QB) would be insane to grow the hair. I think it needs to go.

**Vikes_King** · 05-20-2008, 07:08 PM

Yea i made a comment about this in another thread.

They said that they did discuss the fact that unproven rookies are making more/as much as established vets, and that that needs to be addressed, and i'm very glad about that.

Knocking out a preseason game is all good, 17 games?
Like you said, the more the merrier, as long as it doesn't greatly prolong the new CBA discussions.
Like I said in the other thread, 17 games = 17 checks, people will want more cash.
Also like they said on NFL Live, if they extend the regular season, they will have to discuss whether or not to extend the size of team rosters, because of the high injury rate in the NFL

I think mandating Hair length is dumb as hell, as I've said in other threads when this first came up.
As the rule goes right now, if the hair is sticking out of the helmet, its considered part of the uniform and can be used to bring down a player; they know the risks so it should be their call.

**gregair13** · 05-21-2008, 12:22 AM

i just said we need a cap on rookies. everyone out of the draft should have a cap. regardless of posession and what number someone is drafted, it should be the same for everyone. that means the top 5 get close to the same amount of money, and everyone else will be less than that. if ryan turns out to be a bust, i think the cap will get in even soon.

i like the length of the season. yes one more game can get you a lot of money, but making the playoffs makes you even more. a home playoff game, jack up ticket prices and owners can easily cash in.

hair length? who cares. its part of their personally. they just cant complain when it gets ripped out of their skull

**olson_10** · 05-21-2008, 02:45 AM

ive never been able to understand why the nfl hasnt followed the nba and nhl by putting a rookie pay-scale in place..it makes absolutely no sense for these guys to get paid that kind of money in their contract without playing a down of football

**DustinDupont** · 05-21-2008, 02:49 AM

"olson_10" wrote:

ive never been able to understand why the nfl hasnt followed the nba and nhl by putting a rookie pay-scale in place..it makes absolutely no sense for these guys to get paid that kind of money in their contract without playing a down of football

becuase the player union doesnt want to agree with it... they want the players to get paid

**singersp** · 05-21-2008, 06:58 AM

[size=13pt]NFL eyes 17th game to grow revenue, shorten preseason[/size]

By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Updated: May 20, 2008, 8:18 PM ET

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell raised the possibility of having a 17th regular-season game as an option to help settle some of the league's future labor problems....

**digital420** · 05-23-2008, 01:13 AM

Pros and cons to prospect of a 17-game season

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3406314
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Seems like it would help a lot to get the owners/players closer together.. but.. i see it being a scheduling nightmare.

i'd luv less preseason though!!

DiGiTaL

**Overlord** · 05-23-2008, 02:28 AM

"DustinDupont" wrote:

"olson_10" wrote:

ive never been able to understand why the nfl hasnt followed the nba and nhl by putting a rookie pay-scale in place..it makes absolutely no sense for these guys to get paid that kind of money in their contract without playing a down of football

becuase the player union doesnt want to agree with it... they want the players to get paid

Absolutely right.

And while you'd think that the players would want rookies to make less so that the pool available to the vets is larger, they probably benefit from the current structure.
The top 10 picks get paid mad bank, and that subtracts from the total pool, but only by a couple million.
In turn, those top picks set the bar for future contracts.
A big part of why Barber just got paid something over $6 million/year is that AD gets paid about $5 million/year.

So in my opinion, a rookie pay scale would be okay but not necessary.
Adding an extra 'real' game at the expense of a preseason game would be great.
As for the hair, who cares?