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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

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    Favre put GB back on the map ... won them a Super Bowl. Broke a shitload of records ... built a Mercedes ... and then watched as the owners of the Mercedes asked him not to drive it anymore, despite having plenty of drive left in him.
    It would be interesting to how the records he broke equated out per game. Yes he broke a lot of records but he did it at a time when the league played 16 games a year. 40 extra games over a career adds up to a lot more stats. Some of those records were also broke due to his longevity in the league & starting every game. That would also include bad records to own like most interceptions.

    A lot of the old time greats played at a time not only when the season was 14 games long, but when a huge emphasis was on the running game, not the passing game.
    Which old-time great do you want to compare him to? We had this discussion before about him and Tark ... and he threw less interceptions, more touchdowns and more yards per game than Fran the Man ... who else?

    Favre - 238 yards per game, 1.7 TDs per game, 1.1 INTs per game
    Tarkenton - 191 yards, 1.4 TDs, 1.1 INTs
    Dawson - 170 yards, 1.4 TDs, 1.1 INTs
    Starr - 126 yards, 1.1 TD, 1 INT
    Montana - 211 yards, 1.5 TDs, .6 INTs
    Marino - 253 yards, 1.7 TDs, 1 INT
    Unitas - 191 yards, 1.4 TDs, 1.2 INTs

    We can go on and on and on as you throw out this lame "14 game" theory.
    Keep spinning it however you want. Shouldn't players back then have been able to play longer considering they played less games? And "40 more games" is low, it is more than that ... and should not be scoffed at. The fact that he played more games at a high level should not be counted against him.

    Simply put, Favre is one of the greatest to ever play the game. Almost universal top 10 QB and to say Rodgers is close to that at this point is crazy. The longevity is not something to hold against him, but should be admired, whether he had ever donned the Purple or not.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

    Rodgers is the best QB in the league. No one has his combination of accuracy, toughness, arm and smarts. I think he might be an all time great. However, he needs a few more season to solidify his ranking.
    This is coming from an avid Packer hater...excuse me while i wash my mouth out with soap.

    I think he is similar to Adrian Peterson, who i believe to be a top 5 back of all time. However, he needs several more seasons at this level to solidify his ranking.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

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    Rodgers is the best QB in the league. No one has his combination of accuracy, toughness, arm and smarts. I think he might be an all time great. However, he needs a few more season to solidify his ranking.
    Toughness? How many games has Manning sat out of due to a bang to the head? Brady? Hell, Raplisberger played a game with his nose sideways. I'd imaginet hat didn't feel very good.

    Brady missed time because his knee was torn in half. Manning has never missed a game, and only ever sat due to the coach sitting him in week 17.

    When I think of Rodgers, I think of alot of things, definitely talented, quick, accurate, smart. But tough is not one of his top attributes.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

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    Rodgers is the best QB in the league. No one has his combination of accuracy, toughness, arm and smarts. I think he might be an all time great. However, he needs a few more season to solidify his ranking.
    Toughness? How many games has Manning sat out of due to a bang to the head? Brady? Hell, Raplisberger played a game with his nose sideways. I'd imaginet hat didn't feel very good.

    Brady missed time because his knee was torn in half. Manning has never missed a game, and only ever sat due to the coach sitting him in week 17.

    When I think of Rodgers, I think of alot of things, definitely talented, quick, accurate, smart. But tough is not one of his top attributes.
    I never said he was the toughest. I said that he had the best combination of those attributes. I would also like to point out that Manning and Brady's line were some of the best int he league almost every year. Rodgers has been sacked relentlessly and gets up play after play. If you ask me who I want at QB right now, it's Rodgers. He's younger, more agile, throws the best deep ball in the game and is intelligent. Manning and Brady does some things better but Rodgers can kill you with his arm almost as good as these guys and his legs have to be accounted for.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by "kevoncox" #1100549
    Rodgers is the best QB in the league. No one has his combination of accuracy, toughness, arm and smarts. I think he might be an all time great. However, he needs a few more season to solidify his ranking.
    This is coming from an avid Packer hater...excuse me while i wash my mouth out with soap.

    I think he is similar to Adrian Peterson, who i believe to be a top 5 back of all time. However, he needs several more seasons at this level to solidify his ranking.
    I place Rodgers in the top 5 currently, but I think for certain that Brady and Manning (Peyton, not the other one) rank above him right now.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

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    Quote Originally Posted by "kevoncox" #1100549
    Rodgers is the best QB in the league. No one has his combination of accuracy, toughness, arm and smarts. I think he might be an all time great. However, he needs a few more season to solidify his ranking.
    This is coming from an avid Packer hater...excuse me while i wash my mouth out with soap.

    I think he is similar to Adrian Peterson, who i believe to be a top 5 back of all time. However, he needs several more seasons at this level to solidify his ranking.
    I place Rodgers in the top 5 currently, but I think for certain that Brady and Manning (Peyton, not the other one) rank above him right now.

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    Yeah ... Brady and Manning are in a tier of their own.

    Brees is in a second tier by himself mostly as well.

    Rodgers is in the same tier as Rivers and Roethlisberger. That is probably your top five, though there could be plenty of arguments made for Vick, Ryan, Romo, Eli and the rising Josh Freeman. But I would guess most top 5 lists would be Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers and Roethlisberger ... with Rodgers falling between 3 and 5.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

    Rodgers MIGHT have the best all-around skillset of any QB, but he's not the best QB. Until he shows he can actually win a game by himself, he'll place no better than third. He's never had a bad team. Always had Jennings and Driver. Got Finley in 09, improved OL last season. Stick him on the Colts O, see how he does. Manning makes some average dudes like Garcon and Collie look like seasoned vets.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

    Lol

    Look at how many pages he baited you guys into with this. You should know better by now.:woohoo:

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

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    Lol

    Look at how many pages he baited you guys into with this. You should know better by now.:woohoo:
    what else is there to do in this offseason.

    It's like you and a Packer fan sitting in a room for three months.. you might as well smack him around a couple times for amusement.

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    Re: Rodgers is better than Favre

    Yup Rodgers is 10x better than Favre...good thread
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