I see what you are saying and appreciate what you are saying. That being said, the profile has less to do with the color than the images that are portrayed by what they are wearing. I can assure you that when I was growing up a leather jacket and multiple tattoos would get a white guy profiled in a heartbeat. A white guy on a Harley with a hells Angels jacket is going to get checked out just as readily as a black guy with a hoodie and pants around his knees. How many black men walking down the street with horn rimmed glasses, a pocket protector and chemistry books do you see? :).
Originally Posted by kevoncox
If the black community wants to change their perception then they need to start to address the image they portray. I don't think Bill Cosby, Oprah or other black people get unfairly profiled and I have some close friends that I have known for decades who carry themselves in a professional manner and have no problems with employment or incarceration. They would have not had those same luxuries 40-50 years ago. I am not saying they have it as easy as a whitey with a trust fund but the opportunity is there and the glass ceiling is now reduced to saran wrap. Still there but not nearly as hard to break through if you work at it.
Actually, if you read the news you would see the NFL and other places have now started to ban backpacks and I bet a white guy showing up at the airport with a pressure cooker with wires hanging out is going to get the once over.
Boston Bombing done by Europeans wearing backpacks and hats..... I promise you that they won't ever start profiling young white men with book bags and backwards hats. This is what I meant by the silver spoon. It's the ability of society to view you as an individual and me as responsible for every member of my race.
The only people in in for the money are the ones supplying the arms and the supplies. If you think the soldiers are in it for the money I would have to disagree.
Also I would like to add that many of those that fought and died during the civil war did not do it because of their belief in freedom and equality. A wise man once said that "a war has never been fought over people" it's always about money.
The civil war was no different. How do I know? When Lincoln had an opportunity to truly free the slaves, he freed only those under southern control. Slaves in Maryland and other Northern states were not freed. He did this to damage the South's economy as a rash of slaves abandoning plantations would cripple the south who relied on their backs to keep afloat. That would be akin to Obama saying that all the factory workers in North Korea are free to do what they want. He has no control of N. Korea and Lincoln had no control of the south, which at that time had its own Money, President, Congress and constitution. It's one of histories biggest lies.
First- let's tackle the prosecutor statement. What you said may be true but it isn't that way because they only take applications from white men. If you want more black prosecutors then the community needs to stress to their children that they should grow up to be lawyer, judges and civil servants and not the next Tone Loc. That is something that the black community has every chance to change if they choose to do so.
With all that said, I don't think that white people are up to hold black people back. Few black people really think so. I think however, that there are policies on the books that hearken back from an older time that give you preferential treatment ( see the death penalty; the majority of prosecutors being white males). The danger lies in doing nothing and not being socially aware that these issues exist. Not realizing that war on Drugs is just a re-branding of the pig laws of the 1900s.
That is an interesting point and I have to admit I am not sure what you men by it. I know my heritage which is of European descent but I also know that with every passing generation those roots run shallower and broader. My grandparents on one side were full blown German and the other side were full blown Norwegian and they certainly had culinary traditions like Lefse, Lutefisk, Sauerkraut, Beer etc and they spoke the native language among friend(although not well) but in the end they were Americans and each generation is diluted by different nationalities and heritage is of less importance. In my humble opinion you and I are not Norwegian, Not German, Not African but we are American and THAT is the roots and culture that should be embraced, taught and what you should strive to be.
While many things have changed in the past 50 years, what hasn't is that you have a group of people in this country without a true history, culture, language, name etc. That to me is one of the causes of much turbulence. A tree without roots cannot stand. Issues like these will never resolve because that history is gone. It may not mean a lot to you to be able to point back and guess if you are of English, Scottish, or Swedish ancestry but you at-least know that you name is a name of your people.
Forgive me if I am a bit naive to the current Presidents particular tone. How exactly do you gauge how black skin is? At any rate it may be just as likely that happens as a woman is elected.
I'm not even going to bring up the division in complexion that is tearing the black community apart due to the preferential treatment given to light-skinned black people in the past and present. I for one will say we may never have a dark-skinned president ( it might not matter to you but it means a lot to those than understand where this nation truly is).
There is always more to be done. Push for those changes, enjoy the ones that have taken place and remember how much better it is now than it was.
I say all of this to say, although it has been 50 years and major hurdles have been crossed, there is a very long way to go. look at this cycle
That is true no matter what the skin color is and there are communities of White, Black, and hispanic that all fall into that category. The ones that refuse to accept it eventually crawl out. It may not happen in one generation but it will happen.
The poor turns alcohol and drugs to solve their problems -----> This increases the crime rate in the poor to fix their dependence ------> Profiling in the poor community increase ------> This leads to more poor people being arrested, sentenced and stripped of the opportunity to get a job that would remove them out of poverty ------> They stay poor and turn to drugs and alcohol to solve the difficulty of daily life.
I am no fan of the war on drugs.
The war on drugs is just a way to keep the poor poorer and the rich wealthy. It's a social economic policy but it unfairly strike the black community because the average black person is at a lower social economic level than the average white person.