Thread: Refs screw Lions

Originally Posted by NodakPaul

I agree for the most part. However, to respond to #1 - It was called a TD, therefore it is not a challengable play. TDs and turnovers are automatically reviewed, so they are not challengable. So yes, he should have known.

I really think this rule is flawed. I can understand the 15 yard penalty, but making the play no longer under review is stupid. Seriously, I would just throw the flag every time I got a potentially questionable TD or a turnover just to ensure that it stood. I would take the 15 yards every time. This rule needs to be change immediately.

Agreed, the rule is flawed. The refs have always been visually impaired; it's a prerquisite for the job!
What a game though, especially in overtime.
The Texans appear vulnerable and could end up one and done if they don't get it together. That J J Swatt is amazing and Suh is still Suh.

Rules are rules

But they might change it soon:
NFL considering in-season change of challenge rule - NFL.com

Well to be fair Thanksgiving wouldn't be the same without the Lions managing lose at home by one means or another

Good. Schwartz should know the rules. He was a dickhead to Harbaugh last year after Harbaugh made a rookie mistake and challenged an unchallengable play and got flagged for it. Schwartz then yelled "Know the rules!" or something to the effect of it. Sure it was a bad miss by the officials but the Lions still had chances to win it after. We have gotten screwed by the refs plenty of times and have just been told to overcome the mistakes, so I have no pity for them. Plus they're a team full of douchebags so they deserve it.

Originally Posted by AngloVike

Well to be fair Thanksgiving wouldn't be the same without the Lions managing lose at home by one means or another

The Lions last Thanksgiving Day win was 9 years ago when they beat the Packers.

Originally Posted by singersp

The Lions last Thanksgiving Day win was 9 years ago when they beat the Packers.

To be fair, they didn't have too many easy opponents during that stretch.

2003 W (3-8) Lions vs (5-6) Packers
2004 L (4-6) Lions vs (7-3) Colts
2005 L (4-6) Lions vs (6-4) Falcons
2006 L (2-8) Lions vs (4-6) Dolphins
2007 L (6-4) Lions vs (9-1) Packers
2008 L (0-11) Lions vs (10-1) Titans
2009 L (2-8) Lions vs (6-4) Packers
2010 L (2-8) Lions vs (8-2) Patriots
2011 L (7-3) Lions vs (10-0) Packers
2012 L (4-6) Lions vs (9-1) Texans

Coaches are briefed on that very rule before every game. Plus EVERY TD and turnover are automatically reviewed- only a moron (or an overly emotional lunkhead) would throw a challenge flag in that situation. Sure the rule is stupid and will probably be changed, but coaches are paid to react to game situations rationally, not go off hell bent. Even commentators screw up the fact that all touchdowns and turnovers are automatically reviewed. Come on man!

So what you're saying is, if Schwartz gave half of his emotion to Frazier we'd have 2 emotionally normal coaches?