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    Generally the only reason i've seen anyone skip it is because they are banged up

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

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    Generally the only reason i've seen anyone skip it is because they are banged up
    Of course they are "Banged Up".
    Comeon my friend.
    Big time players skip it all the time.
    And the others that do show up don't even put in half the effort.
    Hell they don't even play much more than a couple of series.

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

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    Eh ... [size=10pt]I ONLY vote for Vikings when I vote[/size].

    No need to give the other guys votes and help keep Vikings out.

    I fill out one "honest" ballot where I vote for players from the other teams ... and about 1,000 ballots where I just vote for Vikings that I want there (no Tahi, TJ, M.Williams, etc.)
    I hear ya My Farvish Friend, but don't you think every other fan is doing the same exact thing?
    Thats why I think the Probowl is nothing but a farce.

    People don't take the time to vote for who deserves to go.
    Just thier favortie players.
    Yeah ... and it still only counts for 1/3 of the vote ... so hard to call it a farce.

    Does not matter how many fans vote for Tyrell Johnson, he has NO chance because he will not get votes in the other 2/3 of the vote.

    I think calling the Pro Bowl a farce is a common thing fans do to try to look like they know more about the game than others. The simple fact is, the Pro Bowl is the best All-Star voting system out there. It keeps the fans involved but can easily cancel them out with the other 2/3 of the vote.

    Look at Pro Bowl rosters ... almost every season at least 90 percent of the players deserve to be there, most years probably 95+%. Hard to argue that is a farce.
    One could think that, but then, one would have to think, why do some of the best players (who get voted in) actually skip the game?

    My guess, they think its a farce as well.
    Nothing but another pre-season game at the end of the season and this one, means nothing.

    Course, thats just my guess. :
    Well, because it is football and no reason to risk further injury by going, especially if you are dinged up in the slightest.

    I did not say the game was not a farce ... but saying the people he get voted in or selected to go and the honor is not important because it is a farce is ridiculous!

    And players in all sports skip the All-Star games ... it OBVIOUSLY is an exhibition and no player wants to risk injury to be there. But that does not make it less of an honor to get selected.

    Roll your eyes all you want ... but look at rosters over the last ten years and you will find that somewhere between 90-100% should be there. But I would not expect you to actually do any research.

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    Generally the only reason i've seen anyone skip it is because they are banged up
    Of course they are "Banged Up".
    Comeon my friend.
    Big time players skip it all the time.
    And the others that do show up don't even put in half the effort.


    Of course they don't, Its a meaningless game and if you get injured in it, its all for nothing.

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

    "midgensa" wrote:
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    Eh ... [size=10pt]I ONLY vote for Vikings when I vote[/size].

    No need to give the other guys votes and help keep Vikings out.

    I fill out one "honest" ballot where I vote for players from the other teams ... and about 1,000 ballots where I just vote for Vikings that I want there (no Tahi, TJ, M.Williams, etc.)
    I hear ya My Farvish Friend, but don't you think every other fan is doing the same exact thing?
    Thats why I think the Probowl is nothing but a farce.

    People don't take the time to vote for who deserves to go.
    Just thier favortie players.
    Yeah ... and it still only counts for 1/3 of the vote ... so hard to call it a farce.

    Does not matter how many fans vote for Tyrell Johnson, he has NO chance because he will not get votes in the other 2/3 of the vote.

    I think calling the Pro Bowl a farce is a common thing fans do to try to look like they know more about the game than others. The simple fact is, the Pro Bowl is the best All-Star voting system out there. It keeps the fans involved but can easily cancel them out with the other 2/3 of the vote.

    Look at Pro Bowl rosters ... almost every season at least 90 percent of the players deserve to be there, most years probably 95+%. Hard to argue that is a farce.
    One could think that, but then, one would have to think, why do some of the best players (who get voted in) actually skip the game?

    My guess, they think its a farce as well.
    Nothing but another pre-season game at the end of the season and this one, means nothing.

    Course, thats just my guess. :
    Well, because it is football and no reason to risk further injury by going, especially if you are dinged up in the slightest.

    I did not say the game was not a farce ... but saying the people he get voted in or selected to go and the honor is not important because it is a farce is ridiculous!

    And players in all sports skip the All-Star games ... it OBVIOUSLY is an exhibition and no player wants to risk injury to be there. But that does not make it less of an honor to get selected.

    Roll your eyes all you want ... but look at rosters over the last ten years and you will find that somewhere between 90-100% should be there. But I would not expect you to actually do any research.
    First, You do realize that
    : is not a slam at you.
    It is more of a "I'm waiting for your reply" kindof thing.

    Second, back in the day, I do believe the honor of getting voted to the "Probowl" actually meant something.
    Now, not so much.
    Take the "Fan" part out of it, and, yes, then I think it would be back to that quality of a game.

    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.
    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think that all voters are that way.
    You in fact at least take the time to do one honest.
    I bet 85 percent of the voters that actually vote didn't fill out the whole ballot.
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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

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    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.

    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.
    For this comment, lets use EJ as an example.
    In 2007 we said "He'll make it next year" as he ws playing at a pro bowl level.
    the two ILB's who maked it that year were Patrick Willis and Lofa Tatupu.
    Willis played lights out, and Tatupu had been playing just as well for the past two years.


    It happens occasionaly with people like winfield being snubbed, but often the people who are there deserve to be there.
    We can't have every good player in the pro bowl.
    It absolutely means something to both fans and players.
    Do you truly think they don't care about being voted in?
    If you do you are 100% wrong.

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:

    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.

    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.
    For this comment, lets use EJ as an example.
    In 2007 we said "He'll make it next year" as he ws playing at a pro bowl level.
    the two ILB's who maked it that year were Patrick Willis and Lofa Tatupu.
    Willis played lights out, and Tatupu had been playing just as well for the past two years.


    It happens occasionaly with people like winfield being snubbed, but often the people who are there deserve to be there.
    We can't have every good player in the pro bowl.
    It absolutely means something to both fans and players.
    Do you truly think they don't care about being voted in?
    If you do you are 100% wrong.
    I hear ya, and I do agree to a point.
    What I am going to find interesting is how many will show to FL as apposed to HI.

    My guess, you will see quite a few of them not there.
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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:

    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.
    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.
    For this comment, lets use EJ as an example.
    In 2007 we said "He'll make it next year" as he ws playing at a pro bowl level.
    the two ILB's who maked it that year were Patrick Willis and Lofa Tatupu.
    Willis played lights out, and Tatupu had been playing just as well for the past two years.


    It happens occasionaly with people like winfield being snubbed, but often the people who are there deserve to be there.
    We can't have every good player in the pro bowl.
    It absolutely means something to both fans and players.
    Do you truly think they don't care about being voted in?
    If you do you are 100% wrong.
    I hear ya, and I do agree to a point.
    What I am going to find interesting is how many will show to FL as apposed to HI.

    My guess, you will see quite a few of them not there.
    probably fewer people actually going.
    doesn't mean they don't like the recognition of being voted in.
    They get paid for it, and get recognition as one of the best in the league.
    They will say in interviews it doesn't matter, but we all know better.
    Its nature of sports, you play to win, and you want to be the best.
    If you don't, you need to get off the field.


    However, playing in Miami isn't as much of a treat for players than Hawaii.
    Going to Indianapolis next year in February will be even less of a treat for players.

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    Re: Pro Bowl Voting has begun

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:

    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.
    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.
    For this comment, lets use EJ as an example.
    In 2007 we said "He'll make it next year" as he ws playing at a pro bowl level.
    the two ILB's who maked it that year were Patrick Willis and Lofa Tatupu.
    Willis played lights out, and Tatupu had been playing just as well for the past two years.


    It happens occasionaly with people like winfield being snubbed, but often the people who are there deserve to be there.
    We can't have every good player in the pro bowl.
    It absolutely means something to both fans and players.
    Do you truly think they don't care about being voted in?
    If you do you are 100% wrong.
    I hear ya, and I do agree to a point.
    What I am going to find interesting is how many will show to FL as apposed to HI.

    My guess, you will see quite a few of them not there.
    probably fewer people actually going.
    doesn't mean they don't like the recognition of being voted in.
    They get paid for it, and get recognition as one of the best in the league.
    They will say in interviews it doesn't matter, but we all know better.
    Its nature of sports, you play to win, and you want to be the best.
    If you don't, you need to get off the field.


    However, playing in Miami isn't as much of a treat for players than Hawaii.
    Going to Indianapolis next year in February will be even less of a treat for players.
    While i agree with you about it being more of a treat to go to hawaii over miami, i think it's pretty sad that it is that way. The truth is, these players could have a house in every part of the country, or the world really with the money they make. I suppose the biggest difference between miami and honolulu is that in hawaii they'd bring their family early or stay afterward, if they aren't playing in the super bowl.
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    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:

    Now, its nothing more than a popularity contest.
    Hell, how many times have you heard, ......"He'll make it next year for sure".......about a player who was playing at a "Probowl" level only not to get voted in?
    It happens for a reason.
    Voters are out there voting for players who they only know by name.
    For this comment, lets use EJ as an example.
    In 2007 we said "He'll make it next year" as he ws playing at a pro bowl level.
    the two ILB's who maked it that year were Patrick Willis and Lofa Tatupu.
    Willis played lights out, and Tatupu had been playing just as well for the past two years.


    It happens occasionaly with people like winfield being snubbed, but often the people who are there deserve to be there.
    We can't have every good player in the pro bowl.
    It absolutely means something to both fans and players.
    Do you truly think they don't care about being voted in?
    If you do you are 100% wrong.
    I hear ya, and I do agree to a point.
    What I am going to find interesting is how many will show to FL as apposed to HI.

    My guess, you will see quite a few of them not there.
    probably fewer people actually going.
    doesn't mean they don't like the recognition of being voted in.
    They get paid for it, and get recognition as one of the best in the league.
    They will say in interviews it doesn't matter, but we all know better.
    Its nature of sports, you play to win, and you want to be the best.
    If you don't, you need to get off the field.


    However, playing in Miami isn't as much of a treat for players than Hawaii.
    Going to Indianapolis next year in February will be even less of a treat for players.
    While i agree with you about it being more of a treat to go to hawaii over miami, i think it's pretty sad that it is that way. The truth is, these players could have a house in every part of the country, or the world really with the money they make. I suppose the biggest difference between miami and honolulu is that in hawaii they'd bring their family early or stay afterward, if they aren't playing in the super bowl.
    They can, but doesn't mean they should.
    Just because they have money, why would they go waste it all.
    I saw a video of Chad Ochocinco going into a store buying 8.99 fake Diamond Studs.
    He said "just cuz I have money doesn't mean i've gotta spend it" and its true.
    A free trip to Hawaii and a vacation with their family while playing a game in the process.
    That sounds pretty good for anybody.

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