Thread: 'One Season' has surgery..

Originally Posted by singersp

They didn't try hard. In fact they didn't try at all.

Didn't they try to issue a first round RFA tender on Rice before the new CBA was in place, I know it didn't work but with what was available with their cap space they did try something short of using the franchise tag

Was Spielman making the bulk of these decisions? If so, with him now our GM, we are screwed.

My guess is the new CBA and salary cap had a big impact on the decision making as well as resigning Greenway, Robison and looking at extending Peterson's contract and where they would be when it came time to deal with Harvin's contract and a possible extension to his contract in 2012

Originally Posted by vikinggreg

Didn't they try to issue a first round RFA tender on Rice before the new CBA was in place, I know it didn't work but with what was available with their cap space they did try something short of using the franchise tag

Yes, yes they did. Funny how actual facts get ignored when they contradict the point one is trying to make.

My guess is the new CBA and salary cap had a big impact on the decision making as well as resigning Greenway, Robison and looking at extending Peterson's contract and where they would be when it came time to deal with Harvin's contract and a possible extension to his contract in 2012

Believe it or not, the CBA absolutely did have a big impact. Despite a certain someone trying to convince everyone the FO didn't have a clue because they weren't actively re-signing guys like Rice, Greenway or AP during the lockout (when they were banned from contacting players btw)

Originally Posted by singersp

Yes, Berrian was Rice's replacement for the starting WR role. That's common knowlegde.

Berrian wasn't brought in to replace Rice. He was brought in to give us a legitimate deep/speed receiver - something Rice ISN'T. Further, Berrian was brought in at the start of Rice's SECOND season...when Berrian was established and Rice wasn't.

Berrian was a starting receiver already, having only lost the job due to lack of performance.

Caine

Originally Posted by Caine

Berrian wasn't brought in to replace Rice. He was brought in to give us a legitimate deep/speed receiver - something Rice ISN'T. Further, Berrian was brought in at the start of Rice's SECOND season...when Berrian was established and Rice wasn't.

Berrian was a starting receiver already, having only lost the job due to lack of performance.

Caine

Yes ... that is actually "common knowledge."

If anything ... the replacement for Rice was a mix of more reps for Harvin and Michael Jenkins. Both of whom performed fairly well.

Originally Posted by vikinggreg View Post
Didn't they try to issue a first round RFA tender on Rice before the new CBA was in place, I know it didn't work but with what was available with their cap space they did try something short of using the franchise tag

Originally Posted by i_bleed_purple

Yes, yes they did. Funny how actual facts get ignored when they contradict the point one is trying to make.

Really? Who's ignoring facts?

Sidney Rice, who'll face Minnesota on Saturday night after leaving the team to sign a five-year, $41 million contract with the Seattle Seahawks, said the Vikings never even tried to negotiate a new deal with him.

In fact, Rice said coach Leslie Frazier was the only member of the organization to call him.

WR Rice insists Vikings didn't try to re-sign him

NFL.com news: Seahawks WR Rice insists Vikings didn't try to re-sign him

Originally Posted by Caine

Berrian wasn't brought in to replace Rice. He was brought in to give us a legitimate deep/speed receiver - something Rice ISN'T. Further, Berrian was brought in at the start of Rice's SECOND season...when Berrian was established and Rice wasn't.

Berrian was a starting receiver already, having only lost the job due to lack of performance.

Caine

Yes, that was Berrian's role when he was brought in, but that role was changed when Rice left. He was supposed to play a more significant role & move up from #3 receiver.


When Berrian didn't pan out, which we knew was going to happen, they had to rely on Jenkins & Aromashodu.

Scout.com: Vikings still counting on Berrian

Originally Posted by singersp

Yes, that was Berrian's role when he was brought in, but that role was changed when Rice left. He was supposed to play a more significant role & move up from #3 receiver.


When Berrian didn't pan out, which we knew was going to happen, they had to rely on Jenkins & Aromashodu.

Scout.com: Vikings still counting on Berrian

In the end, in retrospect, some marginal, at best, decisions by the Team. Bringing in Berrian to be "the guy?" BAD. Relying on him again to be "the Guy?" WORSE. Releasing Berrian...GOOD. Not signing Rice, the 6'4" man of great hands and porcelain body? GOOD

Not sure who made what decision...

Originally Posted by singersp

Thing is though, even though he only played in 9 games & was thrown to by Jackson, who most here would call the worst QB in the league, he still had more receiving yards than either Aromashodu or Jenkins had all year, scored more TD's than those two WR combined & had more yards per catch than them or Harvin.

We certainly didn't replace him with an upgrade at WR.

By the way ... I have seen in many years on this site that you often have trouble reading a stat line.

He most certainly DID NOT have more touchdowns than Aromashodu and Jenkins combined (he did not even have more than Jenkins uncombined), he did have more yards than both of them (by a whole 18 and a whole 16, hardly worth $41 million). He also did not average more yards per catch than Aromashodu. He was not even close really.

So, sure ... we did not replace him with an upgrade. And if you can't read, I guess he clearly outproduced our whole corps. Rice got $13 million last year counting his bonus. Jenkins and Aromashodu combined to earn $2.3 million.

Just Google all three players if you like. Or you can just keep making shit up.

Originally Posted by MaxVike

In the end, in retrospect, some marginal, at best, decisions by the Team. Bringing in Berrian to be "the guy?" BAD. Relying on him again to be "the Guy?" WORSE. Releasing Berrian...GOOD. Not signing Rice, the 6'4" man of great hands and porcelain body? GOOD

Not sure who made what decision...

One thing that was missed regarding Berrian, his contract was restructured to save that Vikes cap room and it was reduced to a one year deal....which was, well OK.....then when he still couldn't provide a value to the team he was release

Originally Posted by midgensa

Just Google all three players if you like. Or you can just keep making shit up.