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    Re: Off-duty police officer shoots Chargers LB Foley

    A former Bengal, the picture becomes much clearer

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    Re: Off-duty police officer shoots Chargers LB Foley

    POSTED 3:52 p.m. EDT, September 5, 2006

    FOLEY SITUATION STILL STINKS TO US
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    Our story from Tuesday regarding the circumstances resulting in the shooting of Chargers linebacker Steve Foley generated a flood of e-mails.
    And in exactly half of them the readers thought we were geniuses -- and in the other half the readers thought we had lost our minds.

    But as we continue to read more about the situation, we continue to believe that something just isn't quite right.

    Consider Tuesday's report in the San Diego Union-Tribune, in which it appears that as many as eight shots were fired at Foley and his car by an off-duty police officer.


    There were possibly more.
    One neighbor told the Union-Tribune that, upon coming outside of his house to investigate after hearing gunfire (not exactly the strategy we'd employ when gunfire breaks out in the local cul-de-sac), he heard four more shots.

    Officials with the sheriff's department wouldn't disclose the number of shots fired, and it's unknown (so they say) whether Foley actually had a weapon on him when he was hit with three slugs by an off-duty officer who says he saw Foley going for something in
    his pants.

    A key witness to the entire ordeal is Foley himself, but it's our understanding that he's still sedated, and thus in no position to give his version of the incident.

    Another person who might know a thing or two about what went down is Lisa Maree Gaut, who was with Foley in his car and who ultimately drove the thing right at the off-duty officer who opened fire.
    Gaut currently is jailed on charges of suspicion of driving under the influence and assault with a deadly weapon (i.e., the car she was driving).

    Look, we're not saying that the cop was doing something dirty.
    But is it a coincidence that charges against Foley for allegedly striking an officer in April were dropped by the D.A. in the very same week that this latest incident occurred?

    And for those of you who believe that Foley clearly was in the wrong simply because he was on the highway at 3:30 a.m., we'd love for one of you to explain what in the hell an off-duty officer was doing on the road at that time, too.

    Here's our hypothesis.
    And it's merely that -- we have no facts or other credible information to support this.
    We believe that Foley's history of alleged misconduct, including those dropped charges of battery committed against a police officer, prompted one or more members of one or more of the various law enforcement agencies in the area to conclude that Foley is a turd, and that if they keep close enough of an eye on him, they'll catch him doing something that he shouldn't be doing.

    We're not suggesting that they were in the wrong for keeping close watch over Foley.
    In every community there are bad dudes, and we fully support efforts to lock them up before they injure or kill someone.
    But if the police are going to put a tail on a turd, they need to obtain all appropriate and necessary internal approvals.
    And they need to have a plan in place for responding if/when they catch the guy red-handed.

    Here, the circumstances suggest that the off-duty officer was acting on his own, and that prompt efforts weren't necessarily made to get on-duty officers involved quickly.
    So after the off-duty officer couldn't get Foley to believe on two occasions that he was a real cop who had a real gun, we think that the off-duty officer should have disengaged until help arrived.

    Instead, the guy kept after Foley, and the situation got out of control (to say the least) once Gaut decided to make like Randy Moss and drive straight at the officer.

    Again, we think that this situation needs to be investigated thoroughly.
    Because the Chargers are opting not to pay Foley during his stint on the non-football injury list (other teams have elected from time to time to do so), the veteran linebacker is now going to lose big money based on the fact that he got shot, and the whole thing possibly could have been avoided.



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    Re: Off-duty police officer shoots Chargers LB Foley

    This is definitely one of the most bizarre stories I have read in a while.
    I hope this doesn't just get swept under a rug.

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    Foley apparently was unarmed when shot
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    6 September 2006


    SAN DIEGO (AP) - Chargers linebacker Steve Foley apparently was unarmed when an off-duty Coronado police officer shot him near his upscale suburban home, authorities said Tuesday.

    Foley was wounded early Sunday by officer Aaron Mansker, who joined the Coronado Police Department in August 2005.
    "To my knowledge, I don't believe Foley did have a weapon, even though I was told he reached into his waistband with his right hand," said San Diego County sheriff's Lt. Dennis Brugos.

    Mansker has been placed on paid administrative leave, said Leah Corbin, a police spokeswoman in Coronado, a wealthy peninsular enclave across the bay from San Diego. She declined to release any other details about the officer.

    There was no update Tuesday on Foley's condition. On Monday, his agent, David Levine, said Foley was hospitalized in stable condition. He is on the non-football injured reserve list, meaning he will miss the season and forfeit his pay, estimated at $1.65 million.

    The sheriff's department said the shooting occurred after Foley, who is 6-foot-4, 265 pounds, got out of the vehicle near his home in Poway and began walking toward Mansker, who identified himself as an officer, said he was armed and fired a warning shot into the bushes.

    Lisa Maree Gaut, a passenger in Foley's vehicle, got behind the wheel and drove toward the police officer, authorities said. Mansker fired two shots at the car and avoided getting struck. Gaut was unharmed.

    The sheriff's department said Mansker fired at Foley when Foley reached into his pants with his right hand. He fired again when Foley continued to walk toward him, and then Foley fell to the ground.

    The shooting occurred after Mansker followed a suspected drunken driver weaving in freeway traffic at speeds up to 90 mph. The driver nearly collided with several other vehicles.

    Foley stopped three times, including at a red light after he got off the freeway. Mansker ordered him to pull over, but Foley drove away.

    Brugos said Tuesday that while Mansker was wearing his police badge on the right side of his belt, he didn't believe he showed it to Foley from his car.

    Asked if Foley saw the badge, Brugos said he didn't know.

    Mansker was on his way home from work when the confrontation occurred, Brugos said.

    Mansker graduated from the police academy at Palomar College, said Mark Oggel, a spokesman for San Diego County community college. He did campus security work at Palomar before resigning in August 2005 to take the job in Coronado.

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    Associated Press writer Allison Hoffman contributed to this story.



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    WOW...I'm sure he is going to get his money via insurance.
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    Re: Off-duty police officer shoots Chargers LB Foley

    oh i agree that he will get his money, via insurance as you say or law suit, something doesnt sound right with that many shots being fired and especially if the charges were being dropped on him for assault on a cop, they dont jsut drop charges like that unless something funny there too...sounds alittle like they were after him..that only my opinion
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    POSTED 10:21 a.m. EDT, September 8, 2006

    FOLEY'S FRIEND WAS A FREAKIN' FUGITIVE
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    It's been a couple of days since we've last updated the bizarre incident that resulted in the shooting of Chargers linebacker Steve Foley.
    Here's what happened Thursday.

    The most significant development, in our view, is that the woman who was with Foley when he was shot -- and who drove Foley's car at off-duty officer Aaron Mansker -- was wanted for skipping out on a September 2004 preliminary hearing for four felony charges.

    Lisa Maree Gaut was, in other words, a fugitive.

    And maybe that explains why she and Foley ignored Mansker's repeated instructions to pull over.
    Regardless of whether they thought he was a real cop with a real gun, Gaut knew that she was in deep doo-doo if her name made it into the computer back at headquarters.

    Still, the entire situation stinks.
    Per a prosecutor who spoke during a Thursday arraignment of Gaut, Mansker now claims that he felt "trapped" in a cul-de-sac before he opened fire.
    The prosecutor also said that Mansker had decided to drop the pursuit of Foley because no officers had responded to his calls for back-up, but Mansker was blocked in the dead-end street where Foley resides.

    So when car driven by Gaut came at Mansker, he put two bullets into the vehicle -- and three into Foley.
    Mansker claims that Foley was reaching into his pants with his right hand, but all indications are that Foley was unarmed.

    Gaut's attorney said at Thursday's hearing that Foley and Gaut had ignored the orders from Mansker to pull over because they thought he was a carjacker or an "overeager fan."

    Meanwhile, Foley has refused to talk to police about the incident as he recovers in a hospital from the shooting and the surgery that followed.
    He has been placed on the Chargers' non-football injury list, and he will not be paid for 2006 (although the team could pay him if it chose to do so).
    Though he isn't presently facing charges, our guess is that Foley knew about Gaut's status as a fugitive, and that he's watched enough television to know that he might be in trouble if it's proven that he was helping her in any way.
    (E.g., the Seinfeld "fugitive sex" episode.)


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    Chargers | Foley remains in hospital
    Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:01:53 -0700

    San Diego Chargers OLB Steve Foley's (leg, hand) agent, David Levine, released a press release noting Foley remains hospitalized and in fair condition. He has been in intensive care and is recovering from gunshot wounds suffered when he was shot by an off-duty Coronado police officer Sept. 3. Foley was shot three times, twice in the back of the left leg and once in the outside of his left thigh. He also has what is believed to be a gun shot wound to his right hand. Foley is currently directing his efforts towards recovering from his injuries and will respond at an appropriate time to questions surrounding the situation. As previously reported, he is out for the remainder of the 2006 season.


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    Chargers | Foley may have been in steroid-induced rage when he was shot
    Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:46:32 -0700

    The Associated Press reports prosecutors in the case against San Diego Chargers LB Steve Foley believe the linebacker may have been in a steroid-induced rage when he was shot Sunday, Sept. 3, by an off-duty police officer. While there is no evidence of Foley using steroids, prosecutors wish to test his blood due to his history of problems with law enforcement. "His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement," wrote criminal investigator Dan Nordell. "(Steroids) can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users."


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    [size=13pt]Prosecutors seek blood sample[/size]

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    SAN DIEGO — Prosecutors say they suspect San Diego Chargers linebacker Steve Foley was on steroids when he was shot three times by an off-duty police officer.

    "His history of aggressive and even violent contact with law enforcement indicates the possibility of more than mere alcohol involvement," wrote criminal investigator Dan Nordell in an affidavit for a search warrant. "(Steroids) can cause erratic behavior in those that use them. This has been given names like 'roid rage for the uncontrollable outbursts and violence experienced by some users."

    On Thursday, prosecutors requested a sample of Foley's blood from Sharp Memorial Hospital, where he was reported in fair condition earlier in the week.

    Authorities have no evidence that Foley, 31, was using performance-enhancing drugs but want to test his blood because the linebacker has had previous run-ins with law enforcement, according to the affidavit.

    The NFL tests players for performance-enhancing drugs but not human growth hormone. Players are randomly selected for testing and can be tested during the offseason.


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