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    No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    http://www.kfan.com/pages/psn_danbarreiro.html
    This is a portion of a column by Dan Barreiro from KFAN
    The NFL playoff weekend reinforced several essential football truisms, not the least of which is this one: Forget what way too many football wonks have tried to convince themselves of in recent years.

    If you want to be a real team, with an honest chance to make a playoff run, your quarterback has to be able to do more than manage the game. He must make plays, not just in the second half of the 16th game of the season against a team playing for nothing (see T-Jack in Denver), but at crucial moments in playoff games.
    Here's a portion of the way he ends the column...
    Admit it, Vikings fans: The Packers' victory on Saturday afternoon in Green Bay represented everything you want in your footbally
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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    http://www.kfan.com/pages/psn_danbarreiro.html
    This is a portion of a column by Dan Barreiro from KFAN
    The NFL playoff weekend reinforced several essential football truisms, not the least of which is this one: Forget what way too many football wonks have tried to convince themselves of in recent years.

    If you want to be a real team, with an honest chance to make a playoff run, your quarterback has to be able to do more than manage the game. He must make plays, not just in the second half of the 16th game of the season against a team playing for nothing (see T-Jack in Denver), but at crucial moments in playoff games.
    Here's a portion of the way he ends the column...
    Admit it, Vikings fans: The Packers' victory on Saturday afternoon in Green Bay represented everything you want in your footbally
    The comparison is so retarded on so many levels.
    If comparing the two QBs talk about where Favre was at the same juncture in his NFL career as Tjack...riding the bench and learning.
    Does this mean I think TJack will make it? No.
    I just say taking a SB winning multiple MVP winning HOF QB and comparing him to a green QB that has one season as a starter (during his second yr in the league when most are still on the bench) under his belt is ridiculous.
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    It is unfair to say that someone can't win a playoff game when they have never been there yet.
    The situation can sometimes bring a players level of play up a few notches.
    We don't know what TJ has or hasn't.
    When TJ was comfortable and had nothing to lose, he has played well.
    Problem is more than likely the "dry guy", Chilly, drilling TJ with fundamentals.
    Once the season starts next year, he needs to tell TJ, "you know the offense, just play."

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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "COJOMAY" wrote:
    http://www.kfan.com/pages/psn_danbarreiro.html
    This is a portion of a column by Dan Barreiro from KFAN
    The NFL playoff weekend reinforced several essential football truisms, not the least of which is this one: Forget what way too many football wonks have tried to convince themselves of in recent years.

    If you want to be a real team, with an honest chance to make a playoff run, your quarterback has to be able to do more than manage the game. He must make plays, not just in the second half of the 16th game of the season against a team playing for nothing (see T-Jack in Denver), but at crucial moments in playoff games.
    Here's a portion of the way he ends the column...
    Admit it, Vikings fans: The Packers' victory on Saturday afternoon in Green Bay represented everything you want in your footbally
    The comparison is so Challenged Hillbilly Lover'd on so many levels.
    If comparing the two QBs talk about where Favre was at the same juncture in his NFL career as Tjack...riding the bench and learning.
    Does this mean I think TJack will make it? No.
    I just say taking a SB winning multiple MVP winning HOF QB and comparing him to a green QB that has one season as a starter (during his second yr in the league when most are still on the bench) under his belt is ridiculous.
    Thanks for the read COJO.

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    Saves me alot of typing.
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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    Anyone that plays competitive sports lives and plays to make plays.

    Other concept that is missing from this article is "TEAM."

    Romo made some nice throws, he had WRs that dropped the ball in key situations.
    Everyone on the "TEAM" needs to make plays in order for the "TEAM" to win.

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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    Anyone that plays competitive sports lives and plays to make plays.

    Other concept that is missing from this article is "TEAM."

    Romo made some nice throws, he had WRs that dropped the ball in key situations.
    Everyone on the "TEAM" needs to make plays in order for the "TEAM" to win.
    Your on your "A" game today my friend. Nice post.
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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    I think the title on this thread can be put back on Chilly.
    It is the philosophy that he has seemed to employ.


    One of the reasons that Favre is as good as he is, is the fact that he was drilled by the Walrus.
    The difference is that Favre is a natural gun slinger and rule breaker.
    He would pull circus throws out of his shoulder pads just to piss the Walrus off.
    That is who Favre is, he thinks it is funny.


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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    "snowinapril" wrote:

    It is unfair to say that someone can't win a playoff game when they have never been there yet.
    The situation can sometimes bring a players level of play up a few notches.
    We don't know what TJ has or hasn't.
    When TJ was comfortable and had nothing to lose, he has played well.
    Problem is more than likely the "dry guy", Chilly, drilling TJ with fundamentals.
    Once the season starts next year, he needs to tell TJ, "you know the offense, just play."
    This is exactly how I described Eli Manning last night over a few pints with a co-worker of mine.
    In a nutshell, Eli seems like he is over coached at times.
    He plays his best when he relaxes and just goes out there and plays.
    Of course he needs to have sound mechanics, but playing more instinctually allows him to be successful.

    I think TJ fits in that category as well.

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    Re: No Caretaker Quarterbacks Please

    "seaniemck7" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:

    It is unfair to say that someone can't win a playoff game when they have never been there yet.
    The situation can sometimes bring a players level of play up a few notches.
    We don't know what TJ has or hasn't.
    When TJ was comfortable and had nothing to lose, he has played well.
    Problem is more than likely the "dry guy", Chilly, drilling TJ with fundamentals.
    Once the season starts next year, he needs to tell TJ, "you know the offense, just play."
    This is exactly how I described Eli Manning last night over a few pints with a co-worker of mine.
    In a nutshell, Eli seems like he is over coached at times.
    He plays his best when he relaxes and just goes out there and plays.
    Of course he needs to have sound mechanics, but playing more instinctually allows him to be successful.

    I think TJ fits in that category as well.
    Two quality posts that I couldn't agree more with.

    Its almost like you saw the "Light Bulb" come on for Eli this year.
    When that happens the natural talent takes over and the stuff the coaches have forced him to use becomes second nature in addition to his skills.

    I sure the hell hope what we saw glipses of this year (especially the Denver game) was that bulb getting a bit brighter for TJ.
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