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    NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/compensatory-picks-revealed/

    The Vikings will receive one pick (a 5th rounder - overall pick #167) for the following losses/gains after the 2008 season:
    - Lost: Matt Birk, Darren Sharper
    - Gained: Karl Paymah

    http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/projecting-2010-compensatory-nfl-draft.html

    As the NFL explains, compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose more or better compensatory free agents than they acquire. The number of picks a team can receive equals the net loss of compensatory free agents, up to a maximum of four. Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. Not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.

    Although the formula has never been revealed, by studying the compensatory picks that have been awarded since they began in 1994, Iíve determined that the primary factor in the value of the picks awarded is the average annual value of the contract the player signed with his new team, with an adjustment for playing time and a smaller adjustment for postseason honors. It should be noted that the contract value used in the equation does not include some parts of the contract, and that the contract information reported in the media is often incorrect.

    Each qualifying player has a value based on his contract, playing time and postseason honors, and that value corresponds to a round in the draft. In the compensatory equation, each qualifying player that a team signs cancels out a qualifying player that the team lost whose value is the highest in the same round. If there are no lost players remaining in that round, the signed player cancels out the lost player whose value is the next-highest. A signed player will cancel out a lost player whose value falls in a higher round only if there are no remaining lost players. After all of a team's qualifying signed players have canceled out a lost player, the team can receive a comp pick for each qualifying player who remains. For example, consider a team that loses one qualifying player whose value falls in the third round and another qualifying player whose value falls in the sixth round but signs a qualifying player whose value falls in the third round. That team would receive a sixth-round comp pick because the signed player would cancel out the loss of the higher-valued player. If the signed playerís value were equal to a fourth-round pick or lower, however, the team would receive a third-round comp pick, because the signed player would cancel out the loss of the lower-valued player.
    And, if you scroll down to the comments, the author specifically addresses the Vikings (and Sharper):

    Anonymous said...

    Hey Adam,

    Great stuff. Quick question on the Vikings... wouldn't Darren Sharper signing with the Saints warrant a net value 7th rounder? He was much more valuable and had a much higher contract with the Saints than Karl Paymah had with the Vikings. Plus, he made the Pro Bowl, which adds the postseason honours into the equation.

    Cheers,
    Brett
    March 16, 2010 8:39 AM


    AdamJT13 said...

    Brett,

    Karl Paymah qualifies for the equation, so he has to cancel out one of the Vikings' losses. The Vikings lost only two players, so Paymah has to cancel out either Birk or Sharper. Birk's value is higher than either Sharper's or Paymah's, so Paymah cancels out Sharper.
    March 16, 2010 11:04 AM
    So - there you go. You conspiracy types (Hi, Conor!) can make of this what you will, but I think this blog article (and several follow-ups yesterday) cover it quite nicely.

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    Re: NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Didn't the addition of Favre factor in?
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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Zeus wrote:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/compensatory-picks-revealed/

    The Vikings will receive one pick (a 5th rounder - overall pick #167) for the following losses/gains after the 2008 season:
    - Lost: Matt Birk, Darren Sharper
    - Gained: Karl Paymah

    http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2010/03/projecting-2010-compensatory-nfl-draft.html

    As the NFL explains, compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose more or better compensatory free agents than they acquire. The number of picks a team can receive equals the net loss of compensatory free agents, up to a maximum of four. Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. Not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.

    Although the formula has never been revealed, by studying the compensatory picks that have been awarded since they began in 1994, Iíve determined that the primary factor in the value of the picks awarded is the average annual value of the contract the player signed with his new team, with an adjustment for playing time and a smaller adjustment for postseason honors. It should be noted that the contract value used in the equation does not include some parts of the contract, and that the contract information reported in the media is often incorrect.

    Each qualifying player has a value based on his contract, playing time and postseason honors, and that value corresponds to a round in the draft. In the compensatory equation, each qualifying player that a team signs cancels out a qualifying player that the team lost whose value is the highest in the same round. If there are no lost players remaining in that round, the signed player cancels out the lost player whose value is the next-highest. A signed player will cancel out a lost player whose value falls in a higher round only if there are no remaining lost players. After all of a team's qualifying signed players have canceled out a lost player, the team can receive a comp pick for each qualifying player who remains. For example, consider a team that loses one qualifying player whose value falls in the third round and another qualifying player whose value falls in the sixth round but signs a qualifying player whose value falls in the third round. That team would receive a sixth-round comp pick because the signed player would cancel out the loss of the higher-valued player. If the signed playerís value were equal to a fourth-round pick or lower, however, the team would receive a third-round comp pick, because the signed player would cancel out the loss of the lower-valued player.
    And, if you scroll down to the comments, the author specifically addresses the Vikings (and Sharper):

    Anonymous said...

    Hey Adam,

    Great stuff. Quick question on the Vikings... wouldn't Darren Sharper signing with the Saints warrant a net value 7th rounder? He was much more valuable and had a much higher contract with the Saints than Karl Paymah had with the Vikings. Plus, he made the Pro Bowl, which adds the postseason honours into the equation.

    Cheers,
    Brett
    March 16, 2010 8:39 AM


    AdamJT13 said...

    Brett,

    Karl Paymah qualifies for the equation, so he has to cancel out one of the Vikings' losses. The Vikings lost only two players, so Paymah has to cancel out either Birk or Sharper. Birk's value is higher than either Sharper's or Paymah's, so Paymah cancels out Sharper.
    March 16, 2010 11:04 AM
    So - there you go. You conspiracy types (Hi, Conor!) can make of this what you will, but I think this blog article (and several follow-ups yesterday) cover it quite nicely.

    =Z=
    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

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    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Not that I could find. But there seemed to be some "lively" talk in the Yell.

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    Re: NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    NodakPaul wrote:
    Didn't the addition of Favre factor in?
    Not according to this (from the blog article I posted):

    In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team.
    Since Favre was released by the Jets, he doesn't qualify for compensation to the Jets.

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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

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    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Yup, posted this morning.
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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Marrdro wrote:
    C Mac D wrote:
    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Yup, posted this morning.
    Link?

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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Zeus wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    C Mac D wrote:
    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Yup, posted this morning.
    Link?

    =Z=
    Use the search function....... :P

    Just kidding.......Check out the "7 Round Mock with Trades" thread.
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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Marrdro wrote:
    Zeus wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    C Mac D wrote:
    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Yup, posted this morning.
    Link?
    Use the search function....... :P

    Just kidding.......Check out the "7 Round Mock with Trades" thread.
    Sorry, but idly mentioning a subject in a thread about something totally else is not "a thread about this already".

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    Re:NFL Compensatory Picks for 2010 awarded

    Zeus wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    Zeus wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    C Mac D wrote:
    Isn't there a thread about this already?
    Yup, posted this morning.
    Link?
    Use the search function....... :P

    Just kidding.......Check out the "7 Round Mock with Trades" thread.
    Sorry, but idly mentioning a subject in a thread about something totally else is not "a thread about this already".

    =Z=
    Wait, I thought we were supposed to 1) search for that specific url if it wasn't there 2) search for words in the title before posting.

    Are you telling me that you didn't search for words in the title? hmy:

    Don't worry, its ok, we all take that short cut sometimes.
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