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    Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    Is Joey done?

    Garcia might get the start vs. Cleveland on Sunday
    October 18, 2005

    BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
    FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

    Joey Harrington remains the Lions' starting quarterback, but he could be replaced as soon as Sunday at Cleveland.

    He's finding it more and more difficult to block out the booing. Actually, the Lions are finding it more and more difficult to block anything.

    The Lions' offense has gotten so bad, it probably couldn't even score on a Vikings cruise.

    Steve Mariucci said Monday that Joey's still the starter, at least for now. But Bobby Ross did the same thing in '98, pulled the plug on Scott Mitchell on Tuesday and didn't announce it until Wednesday.

    No matter what shape he's in, Jeff Garcia's HMO says it's time to get back to work. (Although, maybe he ought to sit out another week and come back for what shapes up to be a big first-place showdown with the Bears.)

    If Garcia can't go yet, the Lions' only other option is untested rookie Dan Orlovsky. Well, can anyone say "Charlie Batch?"

    Coach Steve Mariucci didn't make a definitive statement at his Monday news conference. At first, Mariucci said, "Today, he's our starter for Sunday." But then he indicated that could change.

    Mariucci didn't rule out starting Dan Orlovsky, but he also called him "a rookie and very under-practiced." The question appears to be when veteran Jeff Garcia will be able to step in.

    Garcia, who led San Francisco to the playoffs in 2001 and '02 under Mariucci, signed in the off-season to be part of what Mariucci called the Lions' "pitching staff."

    Garcia struggled in the exhibition season -- going 22-for-43 for 218 yards, with one touchdown and three interceptions, for a rating of 44.5 -- and suffered a fractured left fibula and sprained left ankle in the exhibition finale Sept. 2 at Buffalo.

    Mariucci said Garcia had been cleared to practice and play this week if his leg felt well enough. But Garcia likes to use his legs almost as much as his arm, and he told WXYT-AM (1270) that he wasn't "anywhere close to 100%" and didn't know if he would be ready.

    "If I'm not healthy, then I'm not as mobile as I have been in the past, and that's something that I feel in order for me to be effective and to feel confident in my own self, I need to have that with me," Garcia told WXYT. "Again, we'll just see how that materializes throughout the week as far as my health is concerned."

    Asked if Garcia would start if healthy, Mariucci said: "It would depend on the decision that we make. How much practice did he get? How's Joey doing? All those other things. Too early to say."

    The Lions have the third-worst offense in the NFL, averaging 237.8 yards per game.

    Harrington isn't the only one to blame -- his line has struggled, his receivers have been a disappointment in more ways than one, the running game hasn't gotten going -- and even Garcia says just benching Harrington won't fix everything.

    "Maybe a changeup can be good in certain ways," Garcia told WXYT. "But everybody on the offense needs to understand and needs to get what they need to do in order for this offense to succeed."

    But right guard Damien Woody said maybe a change had to be made, because "clearly something's not right," and historically teams changed quarterbacks in this situation.

    Harrington has the worst rating in the league, 55.6, among quarterbacks with at least 49 pass attempts. He is completing only 53.1% of his passes, and has four touchdowns against eight interceptions.

    "I'd like him to be better, and I told him that," Mariucci said. "He feels the same way I do. He feels the same way we all do. He would like to be more productive. Some things have to come from him, and some things have to come from the help around him."

    Harrington seems to have little support inside and outside the team. He was booed during Sunday's 21-20 loss to Carolina at Ford Field, and at the end, fans chanted, "Joey sucks!" Teammates have yelled at him on the field and the sideline.

    Told the players seemed united in their contempt for the quarterback, Mariucci didn't completely refute it, saying, "I don't know if that's 100% true. I think they're frustrated in our record. They're frustrated in being close but no cigar. ... They're just tired of it. We all are. We're all looking for reasons, then we look for solutions."

    Harrington said some teammates had approached him with kind words Sunday and Monday, and he refused to give up.

    "I'm going to fight for my job like nothing else, and that's what I've always done," said Harrington, the third pick in the 2002 draft, who has a 16-33 record as a starter. "That's what I've done since the second I've been here. ...

    "I'm not going to quit. That's not how I was raised. You're going to have to drag me out of this, because I'm focused on winning football games for this team, and I'm not going to quit on them."

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    i think this week is the last chance for joey. if he cannot beat the browns, and i mean handle them easily, he is done.
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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    "singersp" wrote:

    The Lions' offense has gotten so bad, it probably couldn't even score on a Vikings cruise.
    Our offense probably didn't even score on the Vikings pleasure cruise, the were waiting for the Defense to score but teh boat got turned around first.

    Drum drum cymbal clash!

    Seriously folks we don't get no respect, no respect I am telling ya.


    I heard on ESPN they don't think that Garcia will take over this weekend, but with a mediocre Joey (how you doin) performance, Garcia will take over next week.

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    I think they would like to rest Garcia at least one more week also. He could be the starter in one or two weeks though. Mariucci has always liked Garcia.

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:

    The Lions' offense has gotten so bad, it probably couldn't even score on a Vikings cruise.
    Our offense probably didn't even score on the Vikings pleasure cruise, the were waiting for the Defense to score but teh boat got turned around first.

    Drum drum cymbal clash!

    Seriously folks we don't get no respect, no respect I am telling ya.


    I heard on ESPN they don't think that Garcia will take over this weekend, but with a mediocre Joey (how you doin) performance, Garcia will take over next week.
    hey snow i just realized for a while you weren't on pp.o and now your rockin the boardz like a vandal

























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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    I think Garcia starts once he's ready, and Harrington gets the boot at some point from Detroit. I bet he gets another shot somewhere else though. I don't think Detroit will be the only place he starts.

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    I think if he does get the boot from Detroit aside from being a bust he will be a career backup he should still be in the league.
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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    "midgensa" wrote:
    I think they would like to rest Garcia at least one more week also. He could be the starter in one or two weeks though. Mariucci has always liked Garcia.
    "Lotzapurple119" wrote:
    hey snow i just realized for a while you weren't on pp.o and now your rockin the boardz like a vandal
    The Peeps say that the way G-money played in cleve last year, he doesn't deserve a start anywhere.

    I say different system(moch runs west coast), different day, let him play.

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    ops:
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    DEAL WITH IT!!!

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    Re: Is Joey done? Garcia might get the start

    "hovan" wrote:
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    Hovan, was my post that bad?

    I think Hovan is pulling an Ellen James (world according to Garp), but only he has cut off his fingers instead of his tongue. He has been keeping silent this year.

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