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    Re: Interesting Defensive Lineman Stuff

    I will save all the links and get to them later. I love reading this stuff.
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    "gregair13" wrote:
    I will save all the links and get to them later. I love reading this stuff.
    Me to.
    Not sure why things like this get very little play on here.


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    Re: Interesting Defensive Lineman Stuff

    As a former d lineman I find none of that interesting.
    I was hoping when I clicked this I would read about how thumbing the o lineman in the adams apple is an effective pass rush technique and how the head slap should be legalized.

    Seriously though, since I feel a need to contribute something, the way defenses are I think 4-3 and 3-4 are too general now.
    Watching Pittsburgh and then San Diego is like apples and oranges almost from what I watched without getting into too much detail.

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    "DiehardVikesFan" wrote:
    As a former d lineman I find none of that interesting.
    I was hoping when I clicked this I would read about how thumbing the o lineman in the adams apple is an effective pass rush technique and how the head slap should be legalized.
    Believe it or not, use of the hands type stuff was what I was looking for when I started digging.

    By the by, elbows and knees do more damage.
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    Re: Interesting Defensive Lineman Stuff

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "DiehardVikesFan" wrote:
    As a former d lineman I find none of that interesting.
    I was hoping when I clicked this I would read about how thumbing the o lineman in the adams apple is an effective pass rush technique and how the head slap should be legalized.
    Believe it or not, use of the hands type stuff was what I was looking for when I started digging.

    By the by, elbows and knees do more damage.

    Damage yes, but they'll take you off balance.

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    Re: Interesting Defensive Lineman Stuff

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "DiehardVikesFan" wrote:
    As a former d lineman I find none of that interesting.
    I was hoping when I clicked this I would read about how thumbing the o lineman in the adams apple is an effective pass rush technique and how the head slap should be legalized.
    Believe it or not, use of the hands type stuff was what I was looking for when I started digging.

    By the by, elbows and knees do more damage.

    Damage yes, but they'll take you off balance.
    My friend, a good coach taught me how to use them after I was taken off balance.


    He said makes wimps not so willing to try to tackle you the next time.
    He did caution though, the non-wimps, will want to tackle you harder next time though.


    LOL, he also said that if you were anygood you should be able to figure out what catagory the players on the other team are by the end of the game.

    Awwwwwww, lifes little lessons huh.
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    Re: Interesting Defensive Lineman Stuff

    3-4 DEs tend to weigh around 290-310, and many are former 4-3 DT/DE "tweeners". They must be able to play the run well. The 3-4 DE is responsible for the B and C gaps in the running game and lines up in the 5-technique position, so he is head-up on the OT. It's tough for a 3-4 DE to pick up as many sacks as a 4-3 DE, because a 3-4 DE doesn't have the freedom to go willy nilly upfield. He has to protect the LBs in order for the 3-4 to work. Panthers' 4-3 DE Julius Peppers said that he didn't like playing 3-4 DE, because he felt like he was essentially a DT. Unlike Peppers (6-6 290), most 4-3 DEs are not suited to playing 3-4 DE, because they lack the size and ability to hold up against the run. Examples of solid 3-4 DEs are the Patriots' Richard Seymour (6-6 310), the Steelers' Aaron Smith (6-5 300), and the Raiders' Bobby Hamilton (6-5 285)
    77 Jenkins, Cullen DE ACT 6'2" 305 1/20/1981 6 Central Michigan
    74 Kampman, Aaron DE ACT 6'4" 260 11/30/1979 8 Iowa
    94 Wynn, Jarius DE ACT 6'3" 285 8/29/1986 0 Georgia
    98 Malone, Alfred DE ACT 6'4" 312 2/21/1982 2 Troy
    96 Montgomery, Mike DE ACT 6'5" 282 8/18/1983 5 Texas A&M
    64 Muhtadi, Dean DE ACT 6'3" 296 7/17/1986 0 Maryland
    95 Talley, Ronald DE ACT 6'3" 286 2/21/1986 0 Delaware
    99 Thompson, Jeremy DE ACT 6'4" 260 10/9/1985 2 Wake Forest

    They sure have stacked up on em, and at first glass it appears they have the makings, however, take a close look at years in the league let along years in the scheme.

    We are gonna be able to run/push them around all year long.

    HEY PACKZ, who's gonna play LDE?
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    Thanks for the links marr, always good to review crap so I can more effectively twist things around when attempting to prove an invalid point.
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