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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    ......snip.....My concern this year is backups at DT, ....snip.....
    When was the last time I told you that you are wise beyond your years my friend?

    Not many see it that way by the way.
    I sure as hell don't. If we assume that KWill and Phat Pat are playing (which it does appear they are) then I'm perfectly happy with Jimmy Kennedy, Fred Evans and Letroy Guion (with some Brian Robison mixed in there for speed).

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    You are correct, if they play. I think we are probably gonna see them play, however, the league (because of the loophole) could get them suspended this year.

    The other side of it is that with Phat Pat out we really don't have a 0 technique guy that can take those reps so in essence, Phat Pat has to play all running plays. If I was a D-coord I would be able to game plan around that "Tell" a bit.

    And.....if you take it one step further, we really don't have anyone lined up for next year when he retires. I know most look only at this year, but you know I kindof look at things a bit differently. I would have liked to see someone in there this year watching the big fella so they wouldn't have to go it alone next year without the benifit of watching him work his craft.

    I would agree with you but Pat sat out ALOT last year

    Jimmy filled in nicely at NT.. If Pat is out for 4 games I don't think Jimmy would be THAT much of drop off
    JK took 275 snaps last year.
    Phat Pat took 494 last year and 550 the year before and 585 the year before that.
    K-dub took 871 last year and 939 the year before and 635 the year before that.

    Phat Pat isn't taking alot of Reps off my friend. I would venture to say that he is on almost every running play with the predominance of his snaps off being those related to situations were a pass is more likely to be called.

    So the back up took about a little over more then half the snaps the starter did?

    I'm more then comfortable wit JK.. DT isn't even a huge impact position anyway.. If Phat has to go for a few games JK is versitale and has shown he can step in and work with whatever technique he's been asked to

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    Last year, shoving Brink in there sure made me feel alot better.
    No love for Napo Harris?
    I am NOT here to provide good football insight or rational observations. I am an emotional 19 year old Viking fan and I expect you to adjust your expectations from my posts.

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well
    OL should be better with Sully and Load (ROOKIE) having a year as starters under their belt. Lets hope the sophmore improvement works its magic.
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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

    gagarr wrote:
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    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well
    OL should be better with Sully and Load (ROOKIE) having a year as starters under their belt. Lets hope the sophmore improvement works its magic.
    I hope so. I don't like Sully, I don't think he did a good job, and I honestly don't think he'll become anything better than barely ok.

    Load looks promising. With a year under the belt he should be able to improve and become pretty good for us. I'd even go as far as saying Load could be our best lineman.

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well
    Run blocking definitely took a few steps back last year. Run blocking was shittier than pass blocking last year. Previous years, pass blocking was shittier than run blocking. Guess its too much to ask to be adequate in both phases.

    I think that's why they drafted Toby "I don't need no stinking holes" Gerhart.

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well
    Run blocking definitely took a few steps back last year. Run blocking was shittier than pass blocking last year. Previous years, pass blocking was shittier than run blocking. Guess its too much to ask to be adequate in both phases.

    I think that's why they drafted Toby "I don't need no stinking holes" Gerhart.

    Yes sir

    Just seemed the two big guys on the outsides couldn't seal the edge or get off their blocks quick enough to get them outside blitzers

    The injuries to Hutch and Anthony along with the youth of Sullivan really showed

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    Re:Insider: The risk-reward of drafting RBs

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    Also it's on my mind that you point out the o-line couldn't block for Favre

    Yet as soon as there is something about Adrian doing something wrong it's all on him and no mention of how shitty the blocking was for him as well
    Run blocking definitely took a few steps back last year. Run blocking was shittier than pass blocking last year. Previous years, pass blocking was shittier than run blocking. Guess its too much to ask to be adequate in both phases.

    I think that's why they drafted Toby "I don't need no stinking holes" Gerhart.

    Yes sir

    Just seemed the two big guys on the outsides couldn't seal the edge or get off their blocks quick enough to get them outside blitzers

    The injuries to Hutch and Anthony along with the youth of Sullivan really showed
    Hopefully its an area of focus this year. I don't have a lot of expectation on improvement from McKinnie, but Loadholt is young enough to get the benefit at this point.

    Even with Favre, I think of us as a run first team. The next QB in the chain may change that, but for now, that should still be our core personality.

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