Thread: Holdout fines $16K/day?
07-24-2006, 03:37 PM #1Prophet Guest
Holdout fines $16K/day?
POSTED 9:36 a.m. EDT, July 24, 2006
HOLDOUT FINES $16,000 PER DAY?
We recently reported that the daily fines for guys under contract who fail to attend training camp will be $14,000. We're now hearing that the actual number might be a little higher.
As in $2,000 higher.
Regardless of whether the new fine amount is $14,000 or $16,000, the news comes as a surprise to most league insiders. We're told that the teams generally didn't know the amount of the fines until last week, and that the agents (and thus the players) had no idea until the information was disclosed by us.
It's also not clear whether the increase was negotiated in March, or whether it's a term that was added after the fact. The "Term Sheet" doesn't mention the fine increase, which could mean that the fine increase came later.
And if it happened that way, it wouldn't surprise us. We're told that, because the owners were so focused on the revenue sharing issue at the time the revised Collective Bargaining Agreement was being hammered out, the owners didn't realize that the terms unrelated to the funding and application of the salary cap generally favored the union. Thus, there has been pressure on the Management Council to even out the deal as talks regarding the final terms have continued.
But wasn't a deal done in March? Yes, but there's enough play in the provisions to permit ongoing discussions. Apparently, that's why there's still no new CBA with the revised terms reflected therein.
07-24-2006, 08:28 PM #2
Re: Holdout fines $16K/day?
just be happy to be playing the damn game........ and getting paid to do it
"We’ll win our own Super Bowl, with our own players. Real Vikings. Something Brett Favre can never be."
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07-25-2006, 05:19 PM #3Prophet Guest
Re: Holdout fines $16K/day?
POSTED 12:00 p.m. EDT, July 25, 2006
HOLDOUT FINE INCREASE NEGOTIATED LAST WEEK
A league source tells us that the recent increase in daily fines for players under contract who don't show up for training camp was negotiated last week by the NFL and the NFL Players Association, as part of an ongoing effort to iron out loose ends from the negotiations that supposedly were concluded in March.
The quid pro quo for the increase in the holdout fines was a decision by the NFL to go with lower fines for infractions such as losing the playbook, tardiness at meetings, and being overweight. It's not clear, however, whether those fines will decrease in comparison to their max levels in 2005, or whether the NFL agreed merely to reduce any proposed increases moving forward.
We've also confirmed (as we first reported on Friday and as others used without attribution) that the maximum daily fine for holdouts is $14,000. (We'd recently heard that the new number might be as high as $16,000 -- but that rumor turned out to be wr-wr-wr-wrong.)
It has been pointed out to us that the $14,000 is merely a maximum, and that teams are allowed to go with a lower fine, if they so choose. In our view, however, if a team is sufficiently pissed off about a holdout to impose a fine, the fine imposed will be the maximum. If/when the guy shows up, the ultimate price tag might be lower; until then, the only way to leverage a guy under contract to honor said contract is to hit him with everything that the team has at its disposal.
The two most likely holdouts for 2006 training camps are Pats receiver Deion Branch and Broncos receiver Ashley Lelie. Cowboys defensive end Greg Ellis and Packers cornerback Al Harris recently indicated that, despite unhappiness with their respective situations, they will report for camp.
But beware, Deion and Ashley -- that $14,000 a day becomes $98,000 after one week, and $196,000 after two.
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